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Live Oak Tussock Moth Cocoon - Orgyia

Live Oak Tussock Moth Cocoon - Orgyia
Floral City, Citrus County, Florida, USA
May 18, 2007
Size: approx. 15mm long
Cocoons like this one are all over my friend's external house walls. He tells me that the caterpillar frequents the oak tree in his yard. Photographed around 4:30 PM. Something seems to be sticking out of the cocoon near center right, likely a parasite.

According to the University of Florida, this is the time of year when females lay their eggs on the cocoons. I'm guessing this is a Live Oak Tussock Moth cocoon, Orgyia detrita, the most common of the Florida Orygia species, in which the female covers her eggs with abdominal hairs. In contrast, Orgyia leucostigma produces a frothy, white egg mass; and the "rarely encountered" Orgyia definita ("most common in the New England and Middle Atlantic states") shows a "near absence of caterpillar hairs."

U FL adds that "Parasitism often runs near 50%."

They are all over my house too.
I suspect they are tussock moths - I see the caterpillars around here a lot in the spring, and the black hairs at the end of the cocoon would fit, too. Here's an image from the guide of one species' cocoon:


 
Thanks!
From what I've seen on the Univ. of Florida site, this is a Live Oak (Fir) Tussock Moth. Good luck dealing with them. U FL gives removal options and warns, "caterpillar hairs in the cocoon may irritate the skin on the forearm."

 
I don't deal with them -
I leave them for years - once in a great while we wash off the side of the house, but they aren't doing any harm that I can see. I guess I'm not a "person disturbed by tussock moth caterpillars", as that site so quaintly describes it!

How did you narrow this down to species from the cocoon, by the way? I see it doesn't match the loose cocoon of O. definita, but it could still be either O. detrita or leucostigma, couldn't it?

 
No froth
Says U FL, "The whitemarked tussock moth has a life cycle similar to that of Orgyia detrita. One distinguishing characteristic of this species is that females do not cover the eggs with abdominal hairs. Instead, we see a frothy-white egg mass on top of the cocoon."

The fact that this cocoon is hair-covered and has no froth let me narrow it down to detrita. Also (though this is by no means a definitive reason) I recently photographed detrita males elsewhere in the county (shown here).

Also, I noticed that Alan Chin-Lee's photo, though titled "Whitemarked Tussock Moth," was filed under "Fir Tussock Moth," which is another name for (and bears the same Latin name as) the Live Oak species.

 
But the froth wouldn't be visible
until after the female emerges and lays eggs - couldn't this be either a male or a female (of either O. detrita or O. leucostigma) still in the cocoon? Of course, if parasitized, there will never be any froth.

I agree O. detrita seems the more likely ID, I'm just not sure O. leucostigma can be ruled out, since both are present in FL. Maybe Citrus County records are available to rule out one or the other, or maybe flight info would confirm. Meanwhile, I suggest you move this to the genus level rather than the species.

I've edited the title on Alan's image - I agree, it was confusing. However, it's also somewhat confusing that you have added so much identifying information to your original post, which was initially submitted to ID Request as an unidentified cocoon. : )

 
Oops :)
Sorry about that last bit -- I've moved the image.

My friend's been seeing these cocoons for years and never mentioned any froth. I'll ask him about it next time I see him.

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