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Vespula atropilosa? - Vespula pensylvanica - female

Vespula atropilosa? - Vespula pensylvanica - Female
Banks, Washington County, Oregon, USA
February 10, 2016
Size: 19.5 mm
Hibernating queen

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Western Yellow Jacket
Vespula pensylvanica: ♀ Good Luck!

 
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I would question whether is a western, the face is different.

 
It's good to question the inexperienced and unprofessional.
I based the ID on her body qualities, but after looking at the face shots; I still can't find anything significant enough to change my opinion.
Please compare these face shots with your second image and tell me what you can see that is different.
Thanks, I could be wrong and I have never filmed a Yellowjacket Wasp. Hey, remember the Crayfish, haha? I never fimed one of those either.

 
I am more confused the more I look at pictures
There seem to be a lot of variation of patterns, In pictures of the westerns, i see several totally different body patterns.

 
That is understandable!
Don't worry, the experts will move your images very soon. Remember, your good shots of this Queen eliminate two thirds of the available choices.
Have another look at your first suggestion, a female Prairie Yellowjacket, Vespula atropilosa: ♀ Check her inner eye-lines and then look into the Atlas: Here. Maybe that will help. What do you think now?

 
Agree
I was looking at that a few hours ago, thanks

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