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Another Eulonchus? (Family: Acroceridae) - Eulonchus

Another Eulonchus? (Family: Acroceridae) - Eulonchus
On Cerro Noreste Road (~3.4 mi west of Quatal Canyon Road), Kern County, California, USA
June 1, 2004
I believe this is another Eulonchus sp. (Diptera: Acroceridae). It was photographed nectaring on Monardella lanceolata at around 5000 ft elevation in the San Emigdio Mountains. Although this photo was shot at a shutter speed of 1/320 of a second, you still can't make out the wings! It's similar to the fly shown here -> .

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Nice photos!
Its definitely is in the genus Eulonchus. The mountains at the southern end of the San Joaquin Valley can be somewhat confusing for the group, and I'm not sure all the species have been worked out. If you were on the east side of the valley along the southern end of the Sierra Nevadas I would have said the species would be Eulonchus sierraensis n.sp. Schlinger. I'm still waiting for Ev Schlinger to publish a revision of the West Coast species.

 
Thanks for your comments Dennis
You stimulated an interesting question for me: What might the rate of dispersal be for a population as potentially mobile as a fly like Eulonchus? Don't know how long adult E. sierraensis live, but as I recall larvae in the genus are parasitoids of spiders, and adults presumably subsist on nectar. So assuming there's a viable habitat corridor, I wonder how many generations it might it take for E. sierraensis to cross from the south end of the Sierra to the west end of the San Emigdios? Perhaps not very long (provided they know to fly high over I-5!:-).

PS: I be interested in a Eulonchus revision for the West too. Fascinating genus...and there's at least one more from the Siskyous I'd enjoy keying. Please keep me posted :-)

 
Another possibility would be
Another possibility would be Eulonchus halli making its way east from the San Gabriel Mtns. You're seeing them in an interesting area where southern and northern species meet, along with influences from the coastal region.

 
Forget E. halli
for this specimen. That species seems to be more restrictive in distribution than I originally thought. It also appears to be strongly adapted to utilizing a single floral host and habitat in the general region of Riverside, CA.

 
Flies can be surprising and w
Flies can be surprising and we always underestimate their dispersal abilities. So I am not sure if they would need generations!
It looks like Ev Schlinger has a manuscripte about this genus, but I would be extremely surprised if he ever publishes it (although I would be extremely happy about this)..
Cheers
Martim

 
Good to hear from you Martin :-)
Guess so...maybe just need a single fertilized female to fly or get blown over there.

Would circulating a letter of support and encouragement from friendly fly folks help motivate Ev Schlinger to disseminate the document...it might make for more euphoric Eulonchus enthusiasts!

 
They could well be the same
The possibility is quite high that the Eulonchus you see in western Kern County are the same. Its also possible that through allopatric isolation they have adapted and changed sufficiently to be a different taxa. Mt Pinos is an extension of the Sierran floral and fauna and that's just a hop-skip-jump away.

As to Ev, we've talked about this, but his focus over the years has been more on the worldwide fauna than those in his own backyard. He's notorius for not returning loaned material and not letting people know just what they have sent. He's a fount of knowledge on the group, but I fear much will be lost when he passes. He has hundreds of my specimens that I will never see again :-( I love his enthusiasm and knowledge, and if you can get him to sit down and talk about small-headed flies he'll make you want to run out and find them, but.... none of us are perfect.

 
That is so true what you wrot
That is so true what you wrote about Ev. I always hope that later on somebody will be able to work up the Western Acrocerids. They are too cool not to be known. So maybe there is a project for you in the future.

 
Ev is 79 and seems to be goin
Ev is 79 and seems to be going strong, though recent legal and financial problems may slow him down a bit. He always said he wanted to save the local flies for the time when he couldn't travel the world. "We" gave a paper on the diversity and activity periods for Acroceridae in Tulare to the ESA in the 80's, but I couldn't get more than the title from him. Never saw a copy of "our" paper. I did all the field work and he identified the specimens and wrote the paper. I couldn't even get a list out him for donation purposes. Oh well!

 
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Dennis- I'm working for Ev right now and might be able to help you get what you're looking for. Send me an e-mail-

 
I hope my comments about Ev d
I hope my comments about Ev don't sound too bitter. I am very fond of him. He really inspired me to do more with the group than I probably would have, but it seemed difficult to get him to focus on the West Coast, and with so many undescribed species "in manuscript" and many of the needed specimens in his possession it really prevented others from doing much. These were pre-internet days and it was more difficult to communicate than today. I simply felt frustrated.

I am so glad that he has started working with others in the field. Please encourage him to publish his West Coast treatise! As you can see from this discussion there are a number of people out here who would love to know more about the local fauna.

I recently helped with completing Dr. Gayle Nelson's Catalog of the Buprestoidea of America North of Mexico. Gayle had been working on it for years and passed before he could get it completed. I know he would liked to have seen it completed before he died, but.... It would be sad to have to do something similar for Ev's work!

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