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black widow - Latrodectus variolus

black widow - Latrodectus variolus
Dixon, Phelps County, Missouri, USA
September 23, 2007
I know it's a black widow, but is it possible to tell if it's an immature female or a male? We seem to have had an explosion of black widows recently. I think they're gorgeous, but my husband isn't thrilled. I tried to get a close up of it's eyes, too, but don't think I managed well. I couldn't get it to stay on it's back to photograph the red hourglass, but it did have one. The hourglass was solid and thick, even where it dips in in the middle (I've seen some that have almost 2 triangles--this one did not). Don't know if that helps.

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Moved
Moved from Widow Spiders.

Moved
Moved from Spiders.

This looks like an adult male
This looks like an adult male. Male blackwidows are much smaller then the females. Did you measure it?

 
No, sorry
But it was smaller than the adult female I found that same day. It was still a fairly large spider, though, and I don't know if the males are significantly smaller than the females. Not counting legs, it was probably about 1cm long, if that helps. With the legs, it probably would have covered about 2/3 of a quarter. I found 3 very similar ones that day. I photographed 2 of them but only included this one because I had the close up of the face (although, I took several shots and couldn't get a good close up). If you wanted the photos of the other one, I could post them.

 
Yes
Yes, the male is much smaller then the female.
Your is probably a male Northern Black Widow - (Latrodectus variolus).
Look at this photo for comparison: http://bugguide.net/node/view/99776/bgimage

 
I politely disagree.
I have personally seen some rather sizeable males. Without association with a female, I think species ID is not going to be conclusive. Too much individual variation to go by color and pattern alone, and you can't magnify the pedipalps through an image:-) Let's see what Jeff Hollenbeck has to say, though.

 
All the males that I have see
All the males that I have seen here in southern TN of black widows are much smaller then the females. That is where I am basing that info on. (Southern Black Widows, as far as I know...)

 
In the 7 years I lived in TN
In the 7 years I lived in TN all the widows I came across were either huge females? Or tiny males....But they were the 'typical' black widow most people are able to identify with.
Just recently I had the experience to go on a 'spider hunt' at night in a park in Missouri....we came across a whole 'nest' of young widows with the mother Northern standing watch. Only 1 small male was further around the building.
Such gorgeous arachnids....and fascinating to observe!

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