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Sympetrum Sp151.jpg - Sympetrum rubicundulum - male

Sympetrum Sp151.jpg - Sympetrum rubicundulum - Male
Staten Island, New York, USA
I am certainly not an expert but I think this is Sympetrum rubicundulum based on the shape of the hamule as seen in the linked image. I figured it would be helpful to those struggling with this group. If anyone disagrees with the ID and/or thinks it only confuses the issue more, feel free to move these images.

I should mention that I've been told that S. internum is the the more common species in this area.

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Sympetrum Sp151.jpg - Sympetrum rubicundulum - male Sympetrum Sp151.jpg - Sympetrum rubicundulum - male

Wow! The face really looks white --
We would have guessed obtrusum. No wonder we keep talking about just moving all these images to a combined page. Do we really know what any of the images really are? obtrusum, rubicundulum, internum -- what a mess! Are we watching speciation occur? Or do we just not know enough?

 
doesn't look that white here
I see it as fairly dull off-white on this admittedly dark monitor. I'd fairly safely say this is rubicundulum or internum (or janae if you want to accept that as valid).

 
I Agree
My monitor is very bright and the face appears to me off white. And yes, I don't think any of the photos are really useful at this point for ID without a clear view of the reproductive organs and even then it's probably speculative. I'd not be surprised if all three of these species eventually get lumped. Check out this article here.

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