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Brown widow? - Latrodectus geometricus - female

Brown widow? - Latrodectus geometricus - Female
San Diego, San Diego County, California, USA
December 28, 2007
Size: 10+ mm
Found this spider under the lip of a big plastic pot in my mom's garden. Didn't even realize it was a widow at first. I've never seen any except the regular black widows in my mom's yard.

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Brown widow? - Latrodectus geometricus - female Brown widow? - Latrodectus geometricus - female

Moved
Moved from Widow spiders.

Moved
Moved from Spiders.

A juvenile Black Widow. They
A juvenile Black Widow. They start out life this color and become progressively darker as they mature. It could be a young male. The males are always this color, but the hour-glass looks too red for a male. They're usually salmon-pink.

 
You
are way off.
This is also an adult female brown widow, L. geometricus.

 
The proportions of the cephal
The proportions of the cephalothorax to abdomen don't look right for an adult female. That's why I suggested an immature, and immatures are notoriously variable in color. Other than color, what are you using to identify this spider to species?

 
For
starters, the pedipalps and epigynum say adult female.

Second, proportions have absolutely nothing to do with sex. While adult males typically have small abdomens, recently molted or starved females/juveniles also have them.

Immatures/male hesperus look nothing like this, with the exception of possible tan coloration. The pattern is also different.

I suggest you take a look at the guide image pages before attempting ID's in the future. For example, comparing existing hesperus/geometricus images would have made the differences obvious.

 
brown widow
Jeff is clearly correct. I have raised brown widows from early instars and recognize the photo to be that of a female. The banded legs also help ID it as a brown widow.

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