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Wasp or Hornet? - Nomada - male

Wasp or Hornet? - Nomada - Male
Fort Bragg, Mendocino County, California, USA
June 17, 2008
Size: sm. than Yellow Jacket
The black wings and small, compact body suggests something other than a Yellow Jacket. Anyone?

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Wasp or Hornet? - Nomada - male Wasp or Hornet? - Nomada

Nomada male
bee

probably a member of the vegana species group (former subgenus Hypochrotaenia). These usually are cleptoparasites of Agapostemon.

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At first I thought that it was Nomada but now I lean toward Eric's diagnosis.
Remember to crop your images more tightly. Only you and the editors can see the full size image and the details are lost to all the rest.

 
Bee
I believe your first thought was correct. It might be a Nomada but I don't know what other similar genera might occur in CA. Has anyone noticed the long tongue that this critter has? (see other picture). Doesn't look like a wasp to me at all.

 
correct
note also the broad hind basitarsis clearly visible in the other picture

 
Ah, had me fooled:-)
Thanks for the enlightenment, Dr. Ascher. I'll be more careful next time.

Feather
I hope you don't mind, but I downloaded your picture to increase the size. I think this a Nomada species cuckoo bee. Try Nomad ruficornis species group here at BugGuide, or maybe even N. luteoloides and see what you think. I'm not an expert, this is just a suggestion.

 
good call
except that this is probably not in the ruficornis species group

 
Re: Feather
Not at all....thank you.

I'd say
some sort of sand wasp maybe. its not a yellowjacket or hornet for sure

 
Close.
This is one of the crabronid wasps in the subfamily Philanthinae which includes "beewolves," "weevil wasps," and the like.

 
Re: Close.
I didn't see any in the guide that had red legs and feelers. . .maybe I missed something?

 
No, didn't miss anything....
It is just that we don't have every species (not even every genus) for that subfamily represented in the guide yet, let alone any geographical variations....This could well be an Aphilanthops or Clypeadon, just not real easy to tell from this one image alone. Most identifications rest on such minutia as wing venation, number of spines in the tarsal rake (females), degrees and depth of integumental punctation (pits in the exoskeleton), etc.

 
Aphilanthops or Clypeadon
note that few species of these would be expected in Mendocino Co., CA (most are from warmer, drier areas)

 
Re: Aphilanthops or Clypeadon
Notably, especially along the coast, where this shot was taken. Inland areas of Mendocino County are much drier and warmer.

 
Re: No, didn't miss anything....
OK. . .I will develop the other shots in this series - there are several, showing the wings, showing the thorax, etc. . .so as soon as possible, they will be uploaded and linked with this one. Thanks in advance for all your help,

Feather

 
Waiting....:-)
We're still waiting for the additional images you promised:-) I'm leaving in "ID Request" for now because it is still entirely possible I have the family wrong.

 
Re: Waiting....:-)
Sorry, I was in the hospital having surgery on June 27 and home by the 28th but not allowed to sit too long. . .I will now be able to work the photos and send them. . .with better shots.

Feather

 
Get well soon!
Oh, I'm sorry to hear you had surgery. I hope it was nothing terribly serious, and that you are recovering nicely in any event. Did not mean to sound impatient, sorry! Now the mystery is solved, though:-) Take care.

 
Re: Get well soon!
Thank you. No, I didn't take it as impatience, especially as you didn't know - the surgery could have been very serious, but thankfully was not. I am recovering nicely. . .tomorrow marks three weeks. . .it was a spinal hardware removal, where they removed one rod and three screws from along the left side of the lumbar spine due to nerve root complications caused by broken pedicle bones that caused the screws to tip downward and into the foramen and nerve root endings. There's still some minor nerve pain but I am doing great. :)

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