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male mutillid - Dasymutilla archboldi - male

male mutillid - Dasymutilla archboldi - Male
Tiger Creek Preserve, Polk County, Florida, USA
November 13, 2008
I believe that this is a Dasymutilla species and was wondering whether anyone could confirm that.

Dasymutilla
Like George said, the genus is Dasymutilla; a bit confusing because of the reflection on the eye and the fact that most Eastern Dasymutilla have their entire thorax black. The shape of the petiole separates it from Timulla, and the shape of the head separates it from Sphaeropthalma pensylvanica.

This species is probably D. archboldi based on coloration, range, and punctation of the tegulae. The sex association for these is somewhat confusing, mainly because the males are so much bigger than the females.

 
I have females, they're tiny.
I have females, they're tiny... well, for stuff I collect. I'll probably get some more if you'd like them

Awesome
Timulla, not sure what species, I'm just starting to learn how to ID the genus to species. Kickass photo, what are you using for your photography?

 
Thank you. I'm using a Canon
Thank you. I'm using a Canon eos 40d with a 100mm macro lens and a homemade bracket to get an external flash right to the end of the lens. Still tinkering with the setup, and think that I'm going to add another flash and use a tripod when possible, but this was taken handheld at f13.

 
Dasymutilla sp.
The round eyes, node-like petiole and the pterostigma ID this one as Dasymutilla.

It looks pretty distinctive, but I don't know the species either. I don't know the Florida fauna too well.

 
woops thought I saw the notch
woops thought I saw the notch on the eye, my bad, woops, that was bad. :( sorry about that.

 
No prob man, I had to look tw
No prob man, I had to look twice since I thought it could be a Timulla at first glance!

 
nah, that was seriously dumb
nah, that was seriously dumb on my part.

 
Is another angle needed?
Should I take another shot that clearly emphasizes the shape of the eye to clear this up? I'm hoping to get back in the lab next week and could do this if it would help clear things up. Thanks again for your time and expertise.

 
A face shot would be awesome,
A close up of the face would be awesome, especially if we could see the teeth on the mandibles, and shots of the tergite and sternite segments of the abdomen, and a picture of the genetalia would be good to, these are pretty general photos that help with the overall identification of Mutillidae. Another good shot would be from above, looking down at the head and thorax.

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