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Rosaceae-feeding species (Phyllonorycter Rosaceae-feeding species)
Photo#273167
Copyright © 2009
Ilona L.
moth -
Phyllonorycter
Cross Plains, Dane County, Wisconsin, USA
May 3, 2009
Size: ~5-6mm
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Contributed by
Ilona L.
on 7 May, 2009 - 1:01pm
Last updated 30 January, 2013 - 9:48pm
Moved
Moved from
Cherry Blotch Miner
. Until someone can explain the ID. It is possible the image at MPG is simply misplaced, a place-holder, or sometimes it just takes Bob a while to get around to correcting MPG.
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John R. Maxwell
, 30 October, 2012 - 2:23pm
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Moved
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Rosaceae-feeding species
. This photo is on the MPG site identified as Phyllonorycter propinquinella.
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Ilona L.
, 29 October, 2012 - 8:36pm
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John R. Maxwell
, 30 October, 2012 - 1:29pm
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Moved
Moved from
Cherry Blotch Miner Moth
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Charley Eiseman
, 13 October, 2009 - 9:06pm
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Moved
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Rosaceae-feeding species
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Ilona L.
, 13 October, 2009 - 8:40pm
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Please see the guide page
for Rosaceae-feeding species. Terry Harrison says these three are indistinguishable without dissection. Which presumably is why Bob says "looks like" rather than making a definite ID.
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Charley Eiseman
, 13 October, 2009 - 9:01pm
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Looks Like....Appears to be.....
...and no qualifier all mean the same to me (when it is I who uses such terms). I mean "That is what I would call this moth." When I intend less than that I say Possibly, Maybe, Might be....
In this case I was unaware of Terry's sentiments and I would of course defer to his judgement. But then I might wonder, what if the photographer found the moth on wild cherry? Or, should we show a spread specimen at the species level when the abdomen is intact?
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Bob Patterson
, 13 October, 2009 - 9:47pm
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Good to know
I had been treating your "looks like" and "appears to be" as somewhat less definite than an unqualified ID.
I would certainly consider it to be good circumstantial evidence if a moth that looked like this were found on cherry (or hawthorn, for
crataegella
). Likewise, of course, if the moth were reared from a mine. In the absence of such evidence, it seems best to group the three together, until someone finds a way to distinguish them without dissection. Note that I left two images in
propinquinella
because the contributor said he was sending the specimen out for expert confirmation. I'm all for labeling images at species level when the ID is certain, even if there is nothing in the image that confirms it.
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Charley Eiseman
, 13 October, 2009 - 10:10pm
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Moved
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Phyllonorycter
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Charley Eiseman
, 13 October, 2009 - 8:33pm
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Ilona L.
, 7 May, 2009 - 10:14pm
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Looks Like 0784 - Phyllonorycter propinquinella
.... Cherry Blotch Miner Moth
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Bob Patterson
, 7 May, 2009 - 9:52pm
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