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Geometrid caterpillar - Nemoria

Geometrid caterpillar - Nemoria
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
June 4, 2008
Might be an Emerald moth? Found feeding on Prickly Rose. I can't remember what happened to it, I am pretty sure I tried breeding it (obviously didn't work; never had much luck with breeding).

Moved
Moved from Geometrid Moths.

Moved

Definitely emerald
According to the Wagner caterpillar book, the best way to distinguish between three co-occurring species that look like yours (Red-fringed, Red-fronted, and White-fringed Emeralds) is to rear them to adulthood. Still, it is definitely Emerald, genus Nemoria.

 
Would a ventral shot
help distinguishing the 3?

This was what I found for the White fringed larva:
http://www.forestryimages.org/images/768x512/1178053.jpg
If this is correct it probably isn't that one?

 
Probably not
I doubt it, there aren't too many great references for distinguishing caterpillars. The Wagner book said that the three species I listed above can't really be definitively separated as larvae, since they look so similar, and have overlapping range and feeding preferences. It did say that one species (Red-fringed emerald, N. bistraria)had somewhat longer "wings" on its back, but since we don't have the others to compare to, that's not much use.

If you find another one, definitely try again to rear it out to adult. All you need is a big bag or jar with a whole bunch of the leaves it was eating when you found it. Dump out the frass (poop) every day or so, and be patient.

I'd say to post any alternate photos you took anyway, it might help.

 
I do exactly what you said
but they always hatch into Tachinid flies >_>. Not one of my 11 Virginia tiger moth larvae survived parasites like these.

 
Well that's exciting too!
Several of my fellow grad students study caterpillar-parasitoid interactions, and would consider that result to be a huge success!

If it happens again, you should post pictures of the fly! Tachinids are generally understudied, according to the one Tachinid expert I know (though he is clearly biased!).

 
I don't really have many good pics
since the one day I forget to check they have hatched and then when I do notice they die....I'll post them later.

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