Unknown mantid - Oligonicella scudderi

Male?

Helfer (1) shows both male and female of this species, and the female has very reduced wings. I think this is a male, therefore.

… Cotinis, 8 November, 2006 - 7:55pm

Oligoncella scudderi

I notice in your enumeration of eliminated species you didn't include Oligoncella scudderi. I did some searching and wasn't able to find a picture- but I did find some related species in this Venezuelan web page. If you need help with the Spanish, I'm not fluent, but I can guess at most of it (the technical vocabulary, rather than the Spanish, is the hard part).

Update:

I found another Venezuelan web page with pictures of Phyllovates chlorophaea (mislabeled as chlorophanea).

… Chuck Entz, 12 October, 2005 - 2:49am

Stagmomantis

Couldn't find Stagomantis in guide, but spelled correctly it was a cinch!

… Jim McClarin, 10 October, 2005 - 8:26pm

Not S. floridensis

Hey Mantis Keeper,

I'll second the vote of it not being S. floridensis. According to the key from U. of Florida (that Hannah mentioned), that species physically looks much like S. carolina but without the stigmatic patch on the wings...

I would echo that it also is not M. maya as well, so that should help narrow it down a bit.

I wonder if Mark Deyrup (who identified my shot of M. maya) could help?

… Tony DiTerlizzi, 10 October, 2005 - 8:01pm

Thanks, I didn't think it was

Thanks, I didn't think it was S. floridensis, I had guessed that it would look more like the carolina mantis in the same way that californica does as they are the same genus.I guess that narrows it down to just a couple options now, if anyone can find pics of these I would greatly appreciate it, but it's looking more and more that I may just be lucky. Oh, how would I contact Mark Deyrup? If you talk to him please have him take a look.
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… Mantis Keeper, 11 October, 2005 - 5:05am

Mantoida maya -- Not!

We have one of those in the guide.

… Jim McClarin, 10 October, 2005 - 6:07pm

It's not Mantoida maya.the pr

It's not Mantoida maya.the prothorax and head are all wrong. It doesn't look stocky enough either. I found another pic of the yucatan mantid after I posted, I have crossed that one off the list. If I'm wrong please state why, I believe I have been thourough. Oh, and the front claws are too small.
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… Mantis Keeper, 10 October, 2005 - 7:15pm

Have you tried IFAS (at University of FL)?

They have a pdf key to FL mantids which you'll find if you go to their website here

… Hannah Nendick-Mason, 10 October, 2005 - 3:51pm

Thanks, I checked back to tho

Thanks, I checked back to those sites and used a diffent part. Was helpful.
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… Mantis Keeper, 11 October, 2005 - 2:27pm

thanks, I had already tried t

thanks, I had already tried the first one on the list, in fact, thats how I narrowed it down to these 4. I recognize about half of them on sight, and some of the others where obviously not it. The ones on my list I couldn't find pics for. The other sites didn't help, thanks anyway.
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… Mantis Keeper, 10 October, 2005 - 4:51pm

I believe this may be it...

Sorry I missed your IM earlier bud, I had to feed my critters.

I believe this is a Thesprotiella sp., or another "Thespidae" species. You can view pics of it at Terra-typica

The only specific mantid of Florida that I thought it may be was Thesprotia graminus, but I cannot find pics of it anywhere. Perhaps that is spelled wrong? *shrug*

Anyway, hopefully that is correct. If not, message me again and I will see about finding your mantis :)

If the above link is not working, just google the name. Lots of pics on this species.

… DeShawn, 12 October, 2005 - 8:27pm

Thesprotia graminis -- just one letter off

Click here to see pix on this site. However, that does not appear to be the ID of the present mantis.

… Jim McClarin, 13 October, 2005 - 4:50am

I have raised graminis earlie

I have raised graminis earlier, not what this one is, it's too small.
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… Mantis Keeper, 13 October, 2005 - 11:52am