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Tiny Hanging Cocoon - Dahlica

Tiny Hanging Cocoon - Dahlica
Enumclaw, Forested Unincorporated King County, Washington, USA
October 12, 2009
Size: 5mm
These tiny cocoons have been hanging just outside our front door for a while. They each have their own thread and some of the longer ones are about 2 feet long. They remind me of itty-bitty Caddisfly larva or something, but they are SO small. They sort of cling to pretty much anything they touch. The one in the photo is empty it seems. They are three-sided like a triangle and are wider towards the top. The thread they hang from is attached to the wider/top side. I'm curious if anyone knows what these cases contained at one point. I don't mind if this gets frassed, I just want to get an idea of what might have been in it. They are sort of a nuisance because they drag through your hair and on your face when you walk in and out the door. Many bugs of all kinds breed and hatch in the soffit vents around our house, and these seem to be doing the same thing. The thread they hang from originates from the soffit vent.

Moved
Moved from Dahlica triquetrella to genus level, to be on the safe side: D. lichenella has been found in British Columbia and is apparently similar-looking. That may even be the more probable ID--I don't know if Dahlica triquetrella has been found in your area or not.

 
Hi Charley!
I have no experience with bag worms whatsoever. But I found another one, the same as this one, that still has the worm in it. I've been taking some photos and have figured out how to get the worm to crawl almost all the way out. I was wondering if you happen to know what sorts of things might need to be seen in order to properly ID it? Because I have it right here with me and can take any photos that may be necessary. Any tips?

 
Well...
I did some quick investigating and found this page about a related species, which says that "Positive identification of females depends on dissection of the genitalia, or examination of the headplate of the female pupal exuviae." Female bagworms are wingless, and I think one or both of these Dahlica species don't have males. So it seems like you need to keep it until it pupates--or find a case in which the larva has already pupated--and it should be possible to track down the distinguishing characteristics between the pupae of these two species, and/or maybe you could send specimens to All-Leps for analysis. It certainly doesn't hurt to get good photos of the larva; there may be distinguishing features that haven't been described (or maybe even have been--I haven't looked too hard for that information).

 
Thank you!
That helps a lot. I think I'll get the best larva photos that I can manage...and then keep it and watch it pupate then. I'll check the same area where I found these two for more that have already pupated, like you mentioned. Thanks again, Charley! I appreciate the help!

 
Sounds good
I probably should have put it at genus level too. Not sure why I didn't.

Moved
Moved from ID Request.

Bagworm
this one, I think.

 
Perfect
Thank you! Looks just like it! Some of the info even describes them as triangular, just like mine. I would like to just move it to the D. triquetrella page right now but I feel like I should wait and see if anyone else has a guess or a confirmation.

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