Moved from Tibicen.

Did the insect in the above pic have large white bands on the dorsum of the abdomen (as seen in the cicada below)?

Tibicen latifasciatus

As mentioned, "dorsal view - Do you have a pic of the top side?… Andrew Williams, 22 December, 2009 - 11:20am"

Other aspects (i.e. dorsal view) could & would better aid in an id.

Based on the given image, NOTE the following ventral characteristics:
1) Brown rounded/oblique opercula
2) Black ventral abdominal stripe
3) Brownish legs
4) Dull Olive-Green wing veins
5) Slight infuscation of the forewings - smoky coloration apically
6) Date - Time of Year (Late August)

In the Wilmington area, and based on the ventral aspect of this bug, there are a couple options that come readily to mind.

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T. latifasciatus, the "Coastal Scissor Grinder", would be my first call.

This species is a very likely candidate given locality, date, and basic characters visible....if the "songs" were similar/same as those of T. winnemana, then this is your bug!

T. latifasciatus (MALE)



T. winnemana (MALE) - added here for comparison


To answer your question, "Could this also be T. winnemana?"
- The cicada in your image above is NOT likely T. winnemana.
T. winnemana is generally considered to be a more "inland" species across most of its range. Characteristically, it lacks the black stripe ventrally on the abdomen, has greener legs, and the opercula of the males are a lighter yellowish-greenish tan (not so reddish-brownish-tan).
Hope that helps.

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T. lyricen would be my second guess.

???..Possible, however, T. lyricen is generally an earlier season species (June-July-early Aug). In addition, the wings seem to lack the bright "blue/blue-greens" typically seen in the costal veins and hinge area of the coastal populations ... + the legs are not quite as brown as I would expect to see in this species

"Southern Lyric Cicada", T. lyricen nr. virescens

Coastal Lyric Cicada, T. lyricen virescens

Coastal Lyric Cicada, T. lyricen virescens


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T. robinsonianus - this species is least likely.

???..Although possible..???, T. robinsonianus is a cicada of the "hill country" and mountains. I do not know of this species to occur much beyond the fall-line hills of NC & SC, and have not seen nor heard it east of Johnston Co., / western Wayne Co., west of Goldsboro, NC. PLUS, this species generally lacks strong infuscation or smoky coloration to the wings.

Male T. robinsonianus

Do you have a pic of the top side?