Southwestern Orangetip Butterfly - Anthocharis thoosa

But it is not always possible to change levels

This is currently a subspecies page. If what we need is a species page, only John can change the level. All we are saying is don't make new pages and delete older ones. Everything is editable though sometimes only John can do it.

… john and jane balaban, 7 April, 2018 - 2:29pm

Oh, a new "feature" to me

Oh, thanks for the clarification--I was not aware of that limit on editing power.

… Cotinis, 9 April, 2018 - 8:48pm

Not sure who will be reorganizing the species pages

but please do not create new pages and delete old ones. We can just ask John VanDyk to change any current page into whatever new page is desired. Post a proposal in the Taxonomy Proposals forum and folks will figure out the best way to accomplish what is required without any deletions. Thanks

… john and jane balaban, 7 April, 2018 - 7:43am

Any editor can change species

Yes, a common misunderstanding of how BugGuide works. Each node is just numerical, and can be labeled with whatever taxon name is needed--no need to write a new page for a change in name.
Also, any editor can make such changes--no need to bother John.

… Cotinis, 7 April, 2018 - 10:56am

Moved

Moved from Southwestern Orangetip.

… David J. Ferguson, 29 April, 2013 - 8:08pm

Misleading dates

For captive specimens it's a good idea to take the date out of the date field and put it in the remarks. Otherwise it looks to the system like the specimen was collected or photographed in the wild on that date, and the Data tab shows wrong information

… Chuck Entz, 23 February, 2006 - 7:50am

dates of photos

ok, thanks. I was wondering how to do that so folks didn't get the impression that the photo of the adult was a normal time to see one on the wing.

… Nicky Davis, 23 February, 2006 - 9:25am

Do you want it in the guide

as sara thoosa or just as A. thoosa?

… john and jane balaban, 22 February, 2006 - 10:52pm

Let's do A. thoosa

Opler and Warren list A. thoosa as a good species, so let's do it that way and then list the synonym (subspecies) in the guide. Seems to be consistent with what we've been doing, correct?

Patrick Coin
Durham, North Carolina

… Cotinis, 22 February, 2006 - 11:13pm

A. thoosa==A. sara thoosa

That's right. That's why the DNA studies. Some think it's a species, some think it's a sub-species.

… Nicky Davis, 22 February, 2006 - 11:16pm

Multiple Characters Being Studied for A. sara complex

I am currently doing extensive research studies on the Anthocharis sara complex for North America (in press.)

Based upon multiple character sets, including adults, larvae, pupae, distribution, habitat, contact zones, etc. for Western North America, I currently treat thoosa and sara as species level taxa; even though there is evidence to lump as well. The assertion that DNA studies should be the exclusive factor in determining species level distinctions for this complex is misguided.
See
http://www.raisingbutterflies.org/storage/ttr/thetaxreport_7-4.pdf and

http://www.raisingbutterflies.org/storage/a_julia_prestonorum/A_julia_prestonorum_OD_Stout.pdf.
Thx, Todd

… Todd Stout, 10 December, 2012 - 4:37pm

Revision of the A. sara complex

Paper on A. sara complex is complete. Nicky's orangetip is Anthocharis thoosa nr. thoosa.

bit.ly/2Gox8zC

… Todd Stout, 6 April, 2018 - 11:45pm