Oak galls from Ontario - Acraspis villosa

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… Adam Kranz, 24 January, 2023 - 1:03pm

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These are Acraspis galls. I have thoughts about most of the others you've submitted, but I could ID them with more certainty if you could resubmit them as described below--some of the images are simply too small to make out what's going on. As I mentioned before, we don't currently have any regular visitors who can ID the adult wasps, but you will greatly increase your chances of getting them identified if you submit them one at a time, so that the insect fills the available space. This will also allow inquilines to be moved to their proper places in the guide if they are ever identified.

The intent of the feedback you've been getting hasn't been to chastise you for not knowing what our preferences are for submitting images--sorry if it came across that way--but to encourage you to submit images in a way that will 1) maximize your chances of getting an ID and 2) make it possible to include them in the guide after we've put effort into identifying them.

… Charley Eiseman, 24 February, 2011 - 11:30pm

Thank you for Acraspis

Thank you for the identification of Acraspis galls, and the image feedback. No apologies warranted.
I would like to resubmit some photos of the cynipids (inducer; inquiline). However, I am waiting for a specific photo comment such as "limaj_guelph, take a close-up photo of the structure A and I could identify the genus" ... well then, I would certainly tag away and upload magnified photos to benenfit both myself and the other person whom generously offers their time.

… limaj_guelph, 28 February, 2011 - 3:23pm

Also: Cynipid Galls of the Eastern US, Weld, 1959

good luck finding that...Jim found it at New Mexico State

… margarethe brummermann, 21 February, 2011 - 11:45am

Do you use

Cynipoidea 1952 Weld, Privately Printed
It seems absolutely necessary, has keys, but I do not know where to get it, sorry. (I'm looking at Jim's personal copy here)

… margarethe brummermann, 21 February, 2011 - 11:43am

Please always tell us the name of the oak

Very important!

… margarethe brummermann, 21 February, 2011 - 11:20am

Please always tell us the name of the oak

Very important!

… margarethe brummermann, 21 February, 2011 - 11:20am

Some notes on image submissions

Welcome to BugGuide! A few suggestions to increase your chances of getting responses:
- Only link images if they are of the same specimen (or same cluster of galls, in this case)
- If you have multiple images for a given specimen / set of galls, submit them as separate, linked images rather than as a single composite image
- If you have this information, please include the date you took each gall photo (enter it in the date field). The date that the adult emerged is good to include in the image notes, but shouldn't be entered in the date field if it was reared under unnatural conditions.
- Always include host species for gall insects. If you don't know the exact species of oak, even white oak group vs. red oak group helps a lot.
- Unfortunately, we don't seem to have any regular visitors here who know much about identifying adult cynipids, but
- I have resources for identifying cynipid galls and will do what I can to help if images are submitted as described above (see example), so that they can be incorporated into the guide.
Thanks! These images will be great additions to the guide if you can follow these guidelines.

… Charley Eiseman, 14 February, 2011 - 3:51pm

Agree

I agree with Charley's comments here and those by =v= on the "Gall 1" page. It is great to see your interest in galls and your photos are helpful, but linking them as individual submissions would be even more helpful. Your collages would be great end-products to assemble after getting the gall-makers and plant species identified from individual photos. Several of your photos have good images of an entire leaf plus an associated twig, a real help to us and a standard to aim for on all. I did recognize bur oak on several of your photos, perhaps swamp white oak, and at least one species in the red oak group; individual photos of whole leaves would allow us to better examine the images to attempt an ID. Hope to see more submissions from you.

… John Pearson, 18 February, 2011 - 9:14pm

Tagless

Thank you for comments.

Each individual photo/slide is of the same gall. Also any cynipid in the collage is from the same gall. Some images are at different magnifications.

I understand that tagging photos is a preference, but at the time I uploaded the photos I was not aware of this procedure.

I do not agree that if I separate the collage photos at this point and tag several indiviual photos from that colllage that it would allow for easier identification. They would be the same photos, but scattered throughout individual jpegs instead of one simple collage photo.

In the future, I will gladly upload individual photos and tag them all. Now I am aware of the preference. I do hope to get more photos during the summer of 2011.

… limaj_guelph, 22 February, 2011 - 12:44pm

Images

BugGuide is difficult to understand in the beginning, but we do maintain a third of a million images here so we do know what works. Even if you don't understand or agree it would be helpful if you tried to work with us rather than argue about our standards for image submission. We are trying to help you, please try to help us.

… John R. Maxwell, 22 February, 2011 - 12:53pm

Reply is not an arguement.

A reply is not an argument, per se.

However, it is seems unnecessary for me to receive the same comment about my image error repeatedly and then receive other comments agreeing about my simple error. That is alot of emails.

After receiving several messages, I posted a simple comment to state that my next submissions would follow the standard for submissions. My post recognizes my error, recognizes that I will follow the standards, and hopes to limit unnecessary reminders. I look forward to receive posts from interested members and not only editors.

I thank any person whom offers their help. I do not intend to argue. Email is not the best media for understanding intent.

Thank you for your comment.

… limaj_guelph, 24 February, 2011 - 12:04pm