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Pharypia nitidiventris

Pharypia nitidiventris
San Marcos, Hays County, Texas, USA
January 21, 2011

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from Don Thomas:
"Dave Rider and I talked about it. We believe nitidiventris is the correct name. Recently, a fellow down in Veracruz has worked up the biology. [...] this is a US record. It has not even been taken in the northern tier of Mexican states as far as I know. San Marcos is a long way from the border, but gets tons of Mexican visitors because of the huge outlet mall there."

Moved from Pharypia.

from Dave Rider:
"Yes, this is Pharypia. Unfortunately, I don't know which species for sure. I have always identified any specimens that looked like this as Pharypia nitidiventris. I have never seen any specimens identified as Pharypia fasciata. Looking at the pictures that Distant published in the Biologia Centrali Americana, all of my specimens look more like fasciata than nitidiventris. My mentor, Dr. L. H. Rolston, had given me specimens identified as P. nitidiventris, I have always used that name, and I have not seen any similar specimens that I would call a different species. So, I am not sure what that means. The two names may be synonymous. There may be two species, but one is quite rare, and who knows for sure which one I have. Anyway, I am going to email Don Thomas and Joe Eger and get their thoughts on these two names.
"The interesting thing though, is that as far as I can tell, neither species has been recorded from the U.S. Both were described from Mexico, and both appear to be fairly widespread in Mexico, so it is not a huge surprise that either one might show up in south Texas. Pharypia fasciata has been recorded from Tamaulipas, and both have been recorded from Veracruz.
"I will let you know what Don and Joe have to say."

 
Compared to the images
I don't know how reliable these markings are but it looks like there are a few characteristics that separate P. fasciata from P. nitidiventris seen here: http://www.sil.si.edu/digitalcollections/bca/navigation/bca_17_01_00/bca_17_01_00showplate.cfm?id=494

fasciata doesn't have a break on the lower second band and the lines that meet the first band show some differences which match fasciata as well..

Thanks for sharing Dave's message, it's really exciting to hear this may be a First US Record!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the Help!
John Maxwell and Belov thanks a lot for the help, this is exciting and a new experience for me! If you have more information about submitting this as a first siting for Texas, or the U.S. please let me know!

 
i'll post any expert feedback so you'll see it
anyway, pls keep an eye out for them and try to obtain specimens: first record or not, the bug is an interesting find at any rate, but to document its presence in the area, preserved specimens should be deposited in a reference collection (any academic institution will be happy to have this bug, i'm pretty sure). feel free to contact me with any questions directly -- and thanks again!

Moved
Moved from ID Request.

awesome find, Stephen!!
did you collect the specimen?
i'm sure Max is right about genus and, probably, the species, too; great call. i can't find any US records of it and will ask the experts to check the photo for confirmation.

 
Thank you
No I didn't keep it, I am relatively novice to the whole bug world, I have just started capturing bugs when I can to take home and take pictures of and then let them go. I actually found this one at work and brought it home.
I am very confident it is Pharypia fasciata, but it was very hard to find any information on. I have uploaded 5 pictures of this bug to my flickr, Here

 
please add the lateral view
i mean this one -- a very good, revealing shot. thanks.

 
No problem
http://bugguide.net/node/view/493567

 
thanks -- linked
NB: next time, use the 'add image' feature under the original photo to add other shots of the same individual -- that way they get linked automatically

Not an ID

 
Wow,
Thanks for the link John, this looks quite like Pharypia fasciata

 
I don't know
if either of these is useful, but here is the text to go with the image in the previous link
http://www.sil.si.edu/digitalcollections/bca/bca_17_01_00/pdf/bca_17_01_00_103.pdf

Here is another image
http://www2.nrm.se/en/het_nrm/f/pharypia_fasciata.html

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