Spider - Zygiella - BugGuide.Net

From Rod Crawford

I've never seen carpenteri, but the dorsal image from Douglas County OR does look a lot like Z. atrica. The ventral image could be anything but the habitat makes it likelier to be x-notata.

Let's leave there here for now.

… Lynette Elliott, 14 November, 2012 - 8:47am

Moved

Moved from Zygiella x-notata.

… Lynette Elliott, 11 November, 2012 - 10:45am

P. carpenteri

Based on range I don't think we can discount P. carpenteri at this point.

… Lynette Elliott, 10 November, 2012 - 8:57pm

Rod Crawford says:

Positively a Zygiella, but I couldn't tell the sex or species for sure w/o a view of the palps. Male atrica have very distinctive palps, should have been able to tell even at this scale if one could but see them.

From me...I think you're fine to leave it here though. Did you get any shots from the front?

… Lynette Elliott, 30 March, 2011 - 11:19pm

Front shot

I always try for a front shot (and bottom, if I can manage it), but in this case I was standing on the deck steps, and a frontal shot of the spider was beyond my reach. A step to the left put me at greater distance and worse angle. Next time I find one, I'll try teasing it into a better position with a stick, or something, however, when I try that, they usually jump/fall off the wall, then run and hide through the spaces between the deck boards (one time I poked what I believed to be a grass spider; it landed on my hand and ran up my sleeve; never did find the little guy - thankfully, it was kind enough not to bite).

… Phil Huntley-Franck, 31 March, 2011 - 2:09pm

=] spider up the sleeve

Funny. I do find that Zygiella are not very receptive to poking... in fact they are the least receptive of any type of spider I have come across. I don't suggest poking Zygiella because like you said they will immediately fall and all chances of a shot will be lost.

… Lynette Elliott, 31 March, 2011 - 3:27pm

Moved

Moved from Spiders.

… Phil Huntley-Franck, 30 March, 2011 - 10:42pm

male Zygiella

Looking at the range I'd guess it's more likely x-notata. X-notata is also more often found on structures.

… Lynette Elliott, 30 March, 2011 - 5:54pm