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katydid - Amblycorypha oblongifolia - male

katydid - Amblycorypha oblongifolia - Male
Wilton, inland barrens, Saratoga County, New York, USA
August 1, 2012
Bush katydid?

Moved

Moved
Moved from ID Request.

Is this maybe
Northern Bush Katydid - Scudderia septentrionalis? I'm not feeling good about this guess at all now. Gonna post another shot, that "almost" gives us the genitalia.
Make Rattler?? K.

 
Educated guess...
Looks like Oblong winged katydid (Amblycorypha oblongifolia).

 
Noel, might be, call very close, and more un-rattler like, much
Closer..... http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/walker/buzz/007a.htm

 
Wish I could hear it...
These katydids are tricky without call and other detailed features including genetalia etc.Im not quite at that level yet.Also looks a lot like (Amblycorypha rotundifolia)but its call is very rattler like.

 
Call is nothing
Like rattler. More classic, closer to a high pitched common, but still different enough. I'll record it. I think you clinched it though.

You want to see the external genitalia arrangement??

 
Im pretty sure...
Theres also (Amblycorypha carinata)which looks and sounds like A.oblongifolia)however the former's range is too far south from you. The ladder ranges all the way to Maine and adjacent Canada. Reference Singing insects of North America very helpful site complete with calls. Im still learning this stuff very fascinating indeed. Let me know what you get.

 
We can't rule out "carinata" completely
based on range- even though I know it would be outrageous, only because we are a northern outpost of southern species. There are county records to my east a bit, and we have other species found no where else- but on the coast. I.E. the inland barren's buckmoth for instance is here, but also on Long Island NY. So I wouldn't completely rule out "carinata." The call is definitely not different enough to seperate by. . .just listened.

I have to learn now how to distinguish the two.

Thanks for your help and interest! I keep you updated.

Best,
Kenny

 
got good recordings.....
Think this should be Amblycorypha oblongifolia male, or a race thereof.

 
Your welcome Kenny.
These guys are the most common Amblycorypha in my area.

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