Phoenix Pill bugs - Venezillo arizonicus

not arizonicus

arizonicus are pallid and ivory-colored without markings, these look more like californicus, IMO.

… Marcus bullock, 6 May, 2021 - 1:14am

Moved

Moved from Venezillo.

… Hisserdude, 1 November, 2016 - 6:54pm

Moved

Moved from Woodlice.

… Graham Montgomery, 2 December, 2014 - 9:18pm

Moved

Moved from ID Request.

… v belov, 5 May, 2013 - 6:46pm

Venezillo?

I am told by a friend that the telson shape suggests Venezillo as the genus for these and that there may or may not be introduced Venezillo in the US (but that this may or may not be one of them). It could be photo effect, but these ones look slightly different than the Venezillo photos already posted here on BugGuide.Net.

… Peter A. Clausen, 1 May, 2013 - 5:09am

I second Venezillo sp.

These do look very much like Venezillo. The head shape of these also matches this genus. The only introduced species I know of in the U.S. in this genus is V. parvus - which has only been found in Florida and Georgia. The only species reported so far from AZ is V. arizonicus. A great find either way. What kind of habitat were these in?

… Eric C. Maxwell, 25 October, 2014 - 12:27pm

habitat

We found them beneath some rocks in a small "wash". It doubled both as a wash and probably to a smaller degree (evaporation is so immediate) a run-off channel for irrigation at the resort. We got chased out of this little ditch by staff when they excitedly came out and told us that it was a nesting site for quail. A. vulgare was also present as was, if memory serves, Porcellionides ~prunosus. I was not able to culture them, though I do believe I am culturing the much smaller V. parvus.

… Peter A. Clausen, 25 October, 2014 - 2:08pm

Thank you for the habitat information

Why do you think you were unable to culture these? And how do the patterns of V. parvus compare?

… Eric C. Maxwell, 25 October, 2014 - 2:25pm

Because those were the only t

Because those were the only two specimens that I collected before the Quail Protection Committee chased me out of the spot and, truth be told, I'm less likely to devote attention to two specimens than I am to a good dozen. By patterns do you mean distribution or appearance?

… Peter A. Clausen, 25 October, 2014 - 2:31pm

Appearance

Do the parvus look similar to these two specimens or do they look quite different? There aren't many photos of V. parvus online so it's hard to compare these to them.

… Eric C. Maxwell, 25 October, 2014 - 5:37pm

V. parvus? photos

I was hoping you'd ask. Let the photos speak for themselves ;) (sorry, I don't know how to imbed them here, so here's a link)

http://bugguide.net/node/view/1013692

… Peter A. Clausen, 25 October, 2014 - 5:57pm