One of the lichen moths was flying by the river - Cisthene tenuifascia

Moved

Moved from Thin-banded Lichen Moth.

… Chuck Sexton, 17 October, 2017 - 11:41am

"Schwarz's Lichen Moth"

This appears to be the distinctive AZ subspecies C. tenuifascia ssp. schwarziorum.

… Chuck Sexton, 17 October, 2017 - 8:54am

Moved

Moved from Moths.

… Randy Hardy, 15 August, 2013 - 10:05pm

8066 - Cisthene tenuifascia

Chris Schmidt confirms Cisthene tenuifascia for Arizona with C. subrufa restricted (in our area) to south Texas. This is just one more "straightening out" brought to light by the 2013 BugGuide Gathering in Arizona which has greatly enriched the photo archives for lepidoptera and many other insects (not to mention snakes and people). I've been building a list of corrections to be made at MPG.

… Bob Patterson, 15 August, 2013 - 9:18pm

Thanks for running this down.

I'll update the BugGuide pages when I get a chance.

… Randy Hardy, 15 August, 2013 - 10:04pm

Looks Like 8059 - Cisthene subrufa

(no rsvp, thanks)

… Bob Patterson, 9 August, 2013 - 10:00pm

tenuifascia ?

Hi Bob, I think this might be C. tenuifascia after reading Knowlton's 1967 revision. Seems that the two species are very close externally with subrufa tending to have a more brownish cast and being somewhat smaller. Also, although I haven't asked Bruce about this, subrufa doesn't appear on Moths of Southeastern Arizona which seems to mirror what Knowlton hinted at; subrufa from San Benito, Texas south into Mexico and tenuifascia from AZ south. Both species apparently exist in Vera Cruz, Mexico.

… Randy Hardy, 13 August, 2013 - 2:45pm

1967 paper vs. modern DNA?

Interesting, Randy. But I don't think we can ignore the DNA evidence. I'll try to get more information from Chris Schmidt regarding this problem. Thanks for making me aware of it.

… Bob Patterson, 14 August, 2013 - 3:19am

It will be great if this can be sorted out.

BugGuide currently has tenuifascia from AZ, but also from Texas and Oklahoma! While it has subrufa only from Arizona. Looks like our collection is currently quite confused!

… john and jane balaban, 13 August, 2013 - 4:46pm