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Photo#87037
Unidentified moth - Operophtera

Unidentified moth - Operophtera
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
November 13, 2006
Size: 18-19 mm wingspan
The moth came back the next day and I was able to get a photo of its back. Does this help anyone identify it?

Moved
Moved from Moths. Also unlinked from #86992 since it's not necessarily the same specimen. The date should be corrected on this record...right now the date is the same for this one and #86992.

One of the
spanworm moths. 3 species in your area. Impossible to get this specimen beyond genus Operophtera
Info HERE

 
Agreed.
Great call, Tony. If a (wingless) female could be found, then you could probably get a species ID.

 
Thanks! Very helpful.
So this one's a male, then? I'm a real newbie at moths. I'd only been able to narrow it down to the family Geometridae based on its silhouette. Now with your brilliant help, I bet it's O. brumata, based on these images of the three species of Operophtera occurring in Western Canada. Wouldn't you agree?

 
brumata
seems reasonable for this specimen (dorsal view). However, the other specimen (ventral view) is not brumata. Note the little spot (discal spot) on the hind wing. This spot can also be seen on the dorsal photo of the CBIF image you referenced. O. brumata lacks this discal spot; spot certainly present in bruceata and I believe it is also present in O. danbyi. Thus if you have 1 species it is not brumata, but if you have 2 species then one could be brumata.

 
Not convinced
I'm not convinced that dark area is a discal spot. It looks to me as though it could be simply part of the vein in the wing. And though I neglected to photograph the dorsal view of that specimen, I did look at it under a loupe, and I do not recall it having any spot; it certainly did not have any elaborate markings like O. bruceata. My description of it at the time was "non-descript greyish brown moth." Another O. brumata came by and visited my sliding glass window today (definitely no spot), but my dog ate it before I had a chance to photograph it!

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