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Photo#87037
Copyright © 2006
rpphoto
Unidentified moth -
Operophtera
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
November 13, 2006
Size: 18-19 mm wingspan
The moth came back the next day and I was able to get a photo of its back. Does this help anyone identify it?
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Contributed by
rpphoto
on 13 November, 2006 - 11:12pm
Last updated 9 January, 2008 - 6:54pm
Moved
Moved from
Moths
. Also unlinked from #86992 since it's not necessarily the same specimen. The date should be corrected on this record...right now the date is the same for this one and #86992.
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Mike Boone
, 9 January, 2008 - 6:54pm
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One of the
spanworm moths. 3 species in your area. Impossible to get this specimen beyond genus
Operophtera
Info
HERE
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A.W. Thomas
, 14 November, 2006 - 9:40am
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Agreed.
Great call, Tony. If a (wingless) female could be found, then you could probably get a species ID.
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Eric R. Eaton
, 14 November, 2006 - 12:12pm
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Thanks! Very helpful.
So this one's a male, then? I'm a real newbie at moths. I'd only been able to narrow it down to the family Geometridae based on its silhouette. Now with your brilliant help, I bet it's
O. brumata
, based on
these images
of the three species of
Operophtera
occurring in Western Canada. Wouldn't you agree?
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rpphoto
, 14 November, 2006 - 6:05pm
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brumata
seems reasonable for this specimen (dorsal view). However, the other specimen (ventral view) is not
brumata
. Note the little spot (discal spot) on the hind wing. This spot can also be seen on the dorsal photo of the CBIF image you referenced.
O. brumata
lacks this discal spot; spot certainly present in
bruceata
and I believe it is also present in
O. danbyi
. Thus if you have 1 species it is not
brumata
, but if you have 2 species then one could be
brumata
.
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A.W. Thomas
, 14 November, 2006 - 6:43pm
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Not convinced
I'm not convinced that dark area is a discal spot. It looks to me as though it could be simply part of the vein in the wing. And though I neglected to photograph the dorsal view of that specimen, I did look at it under a loupe, and I do not recall it having any spot; it certainly did not have any elaborate markings like
O. bruceata
. My description of it at the time was "non-descript greyish brown moth." Another
O. brumata
came by and visited my sliding glass window today (definitely no spot), but my dog ate it before I had a chance to photograph it!
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rpphoto
, 15 November, 2006 - 12:02am
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