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BG625 Fly - Poecilanthrax lucifer

BG625 Fly - Poecilanthrax lucifer
Pushepatapa Creek at SR-65, Washington Parish, Louisiana, USA
August 1, 2004
Size: body length 13.0 mm.
We believe this is in the family Bombyliidae.
Based on wing venation, facial shape, and antennae, the closest match we found was the genus Neodiplocampta, as illustrated at 6.2 in Herschel Raney's key here. The wing pattern resembles N. paradoxa, but is not a perfect match.
The third antenna segment on our specimen appears to have a deep notch at the base, but this feature was not discussed in any of our resources.
Help with the proper placement of this specimen would be appreciated.
Gayle
Update: Based on the images mentioned in Edward Trammel's comment (below), we now believe this fly is in the genus Villa. It is an excellent match for those images, especially the bright orange color associated with the major wing veins. Also it is consistant with the Villa description at 6.5 in Herschel Raney's key here.
Gayle
Update #2 See "--- Back to the drawing board" below

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Poecilanthrax
This is Poecilanthrax lucifer. The combination of entirely brownish/greyish wings and banded abdomen with yellow pile on the sides is distinctive for this species. It is widespread through the eastern US south through the Caribbean and Central America.

 
Thanks Joel,
we are delighted to get this one properly placed.
Gayle

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Thanks folks & Back to the drawing board
The sharply projecting face of our specimen is clearly different from the drawing of Villa in Herschel's key. I also note that, as shown the key, the indentation of the posterier lateral eye margin of Villa is smoothly rounded, while that of our specimen is angular. This resurrects Neodiplocampta as a possibility. The eye margin, facial shape, and wing venation of this genus are a reasonable match for our specimen. Sure would like to capture another one this year for possible confirmation ot the notch in the third antennal segment.
I will place our images in Bombyliidae for the present.
Gayle

bee fly
for what it is worth, this fly was identified as Villa, and i was not sure about mine, but added it to the genus page as well.

 
Thanks Edward,
I think you hit the nail on the head, and that is worth a great deal!
Unless there are serious disagreements in the next few days, I will move the images to Villa.
Gayle

 
Fly
I am not sure if any of our Villa species have this conical of a face. And the forward facial shot of the fly looks a bit off for Villa. I don't question Gerard's call on the other fly but this face seems too projecting for Villa.

 
bee fly
that conical a face was why i did not like calling mine Villa... but everything seemed to match the photo identified by Gerard, and i trust his judgment far more than i trust my own on this. there were a couple of these in the uofa collection that were not identified, so i do not know where it stands, but i have been calling it Villa none the less.

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