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A new Zanclognatha from eastern North America and a preliminary key to the larvae of the genus...


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Moved to Zanclognatha gypsalis-minoralis-theralis complex


Got It


Moved


Zanclognatha cruralis - Early Zanclognatha


Variable Zanclognatha - Zanclognatha laevigata


Zanclognatha lituralis - Lettered Zanclognatha - Hodges #8340


Zanclognatha


Hi you two


Zanclognatha marcidilinea or jacchusalis?


Possibly Zanclognatha minoralis of authors, not Smith, 1895


Moved to Zanclognatha dentata


Moved to Phalaenostola metonalis


genus Zanclognatha


Moved to Zanclognatha jacchusalis bryanti


One of the main marks given t


Zanclognatha gypsalis-minoralis-theralis complex


ID Info?


looks like


Thanks, it certainly looks like a faded Zanclognatha


genus Zanclognatha


Variable Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha floridana


could this be Zanclognatha lu


Zanclognatha


Erebidae > Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Hodges #8348


Zanclognatha sp.


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Hodges #8348


Maybe Zanclognatha pedipilalis?


Zanclognatha?


Zanclognatha


I Began to Lean With Dennis, Hoping No One Tips Us Over....


Zanclognatha a valid genus


Zanclognatha vs. Polypogon


Moved


Zanclognatha pedipilalis?


Zanclognatha jacchusalis


Zanclognatha sp?


Lettered Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha pedipilalis


Female


Erebidae (genus Zanclognatha)


Zanclognatha


I'm not an expert but it look


Grayish Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha?


Zanclognatha laevigata?


Zanclognatha again; laevigata


More likely Zanclognatha dent


Morbid Owlet Moth


So it will be Zanclognatha sp


Moved to theralis complex


Moved to Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Moved to Phalaenostola eumelusalis


Zanclognatha laevigata, I bel


Zanclognatha laevigata, I thi


Zanclognatha laevigata?


Suggest


Zanclognatha lituralis


Dark Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha laevigata?


cf. Zanclognatha deceptricalis


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


I am now thinking it looks li


.


Zanclognatha laevigata, I bel


Perharps Zanclognatha marcidi


Perharps Zanclognatha laeviga


Maybe something like...


How about Zanclognatha dentat


Zanclognatha laevigata.


Moved to Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


Zanclognatha jacchusalis


looks like...


Litter Moth


Moved to Zanclognatha dentata


8349.1 – Zanclognatha dentata


8349 – Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Zanclognatha


Wavy-lined Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


Early Zanclognatha


Possibly genus Zanclognatha?


What about a Variable Zanclog


Moved to Zanclognatha pedipilalis


Appears it could be...


Moved


Moved to Zanclognatha pedipilalis


Moved to Zanclognatha marcidilinea


Moved to jacchusalis or marcidilinea


Zanclognatha jacchusalis lutalba?


Moved to Zanclognatha pedipilalis


Moved to Zanclognatha jacchusalis


Moved to Zanclognatha pedipilalis


Moved to Zanclognatha jacchusalis or marcidilinea


Moved to Zanclognatha jacchusalis


Moved to Zanclognatha marcidilinea


Moved to Zanclognatha jacchusalis


Moved to Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Moved to Zanclognatha marcidilinea


Moved to Zanclognatha martha


Moved to Zanclognatha marcidilinea


Moved


8352 – Zanclognatha marcidilinea?


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved to Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Moved to Zanclognatha dentata


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved


Moved to Zanclognatha marcidilinea


Moved to Zanclognatha jacchusalis


8352 – Zanclognatha marcidilinea?


Zanclognatha jacchusalis bryanti?


Moved to Phalaenostola eumelusalis


This looks like a Yellowish Z


This looks like an Early Zanc


I think Zanclognatha sp. is p


Moved


Looks like Zanclognatha laevi


Zanclognatha theralis?


I think maybe...


We're always hesitant on these Herminiinae -


Zanclognatha


Florida Zanclognatha


Florida Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


Maybe...


Zanclognatha


one of these, perhaps


Zanclognatha theralis?


Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Grayish Zanclognatha


Perhaps Zanclognatha sp.


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Grayish Zanclognatha


not a bigwing


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Grayish Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Grayish Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Grayish Zanclognatha


Noctuid


Wavy-Lined Zanclognatha - Z.


Grayish Zanclognatha?


not an id..


How about...


Moved to Zanclognatha dentata


Zanclognatha dentata?


Moved to Zanclognatha protumnusalis


8349 – Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Grayish Zanclognatha - Hodges #8348


Zanclognatha dentata


Moved


Zanclognatha denatata


Moved to Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Moved to Zanclognatha


Moved to Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Variable Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Grayish Zanclognatha - Hodges #8348


Zanclognatha obscuripennis - Hodges #8347


8347 - Zanclognatha obscuripennis


It's Zanclognatha cruralis.


Try [thumb:131769] Early Zanc


my best guess


went through the rest of Erebidae


8354.99 - Zanclognatha spp.


look under Zanclognatha


genus Zanclognatha


see Genus Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha minoralis?


Not an expert


Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha sp.


Grayish Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


By the lines in its wings -


Zanclognatha


8345 - Zanclognatha laevigata - Variable Zanclognatha


Z. bryanti


Zanclognatha


8345 -- Variable Zanclognatha Moth -- Zanclognatha laevigata


My "Best Guess" should not be taken as a firm ID....


Moved


Looks Like 8351 - Early Zanclognatha Moth, Zanclognatha cruralis


Zanclognatha sp


One of the Zanclognatha - per


You Might Not Believe This, but.....


Zanclognatha sp.


Zanclognatha laevigata


8348 -- Grayish Zanclognatha Moth -- Zanclognatha pedipilalis


Zanclognatha laevigata


Zanclognatha


One of the Zanclognathas....


Zanclognatha


Too Worn to Be Sure, But it Might Be....


8351-Early Zanclognatha Moth -- Zanclognatha cruralis


Zanclognatha?


Frassed


Frassed


Moved, Zanclognatha martha


Frassed


Moved


Zanclognatha cruralis?


Frassed


Zanclognatha,


Reminds me


Wow


One of those confusing litter moths


Yes, I can't get the face


Moved, Chytolita morbidalis


Moved


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha dentata


Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha lituralis


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha lituralis


One of the Litter Moths


Maybe a very worn Zanclognath


Moved


Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha cruralis


genitalia of Z. dentata and Z


Moved


genitalia of Z. dentata and Z


Moved


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


See my comment on your other image. Both may be Zanclognatha.


Moved


We find these Herminiinae - Litter Moths challenging


Moved, Anicla


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Probably protumnusalis


Moved to theralis complex


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A. Hendrickson agrees with Zanclognatha


Good point! :-)


Now we can only hope it turns out


Great, thanks


We would think this is something near


Zanclognatha


Moved


Moved


Zanclognatha atrilineella


Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Herminiinae


Moved


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved


Moved


Moved


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Moved


not Zanclognatha dentata


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Moved


Moved


Moved to gypsalis-theralis-deceptricalis-inconspiculis complex


Moved


Moved


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved


Zanclognatha


Moved


Moved, Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


Herminiinae


Moved


Moved, Leuconycta lepidula


We find these Herminiinae challenging


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved


Moved


Moved


*


Moved


Not sure but...


Key to Zanclognatha Larvae


Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Not Zanclognatha


Not sure


Moved to Zanclognatha jacchusalis


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


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Moved


We would say something like


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved, Zanclognatha


Moved to Zanclognatha pedipilalis


Zanclognatha pedipilalis


We would have suggested either


Moved to Macrochilo litophora


Moved


appears to be Z. jacchusalis


Male - Litter Moth


Moved


Moved


.


Looks like


Zanclognatha jucchusalis


Variable Zanclognatha a bit worn


.


Thanks for the explanation


Moved to jacchusalis or marcidilinea


Moved to gypsalis-theralis-deceptricalis-inconspiculis complex


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved for expert review to Zanclognatha


Thanks for the tip Kyhl-


looks like


Moved to Zanclognatha jacchusalis or marcidilinea


Zanclognatha dentata


Moved


Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Moved to cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved


Moved


Moved


.


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved to Wavy-lined Zanclognatha


Moved


Moved


Moved


I agree


Moved


Probably Not Zanclognatha martha


Habitat?


Moved


Moved


Moved to Chytolita morbidalis


Moved to cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


genus Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha sp


Moved to cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved


consider something


.


.


Moved


Moved


Moved to jacchusalis or marcidilinea


Moved to Z. jacchusalis or marcidilinea


Moved to gypsalis-theralis-deceptricalis-inconspiculis complex


Moved


Tetonolita floridana


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved to jacchusalis or marcidilinea


Moved


Moved to cruralis or obscuripennis


Moved to cruralis or obscuripennis


Update


Moved


Questions


In case of doubt:


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Moved to theralis complex


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Zanclognatha minimalis???


Moved


Moved


Steve, Thanks for taking a


Moved


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Moved to Macrochilo litophora


Moved


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Thanks for the ID.


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8349 – Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Moved


Yes


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Moved to Phalaenostola metonalis


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Size?


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8350 – Zanclognatha martha?


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8350 – Zanclognatha martha??


Moved


8353 – Zanclognatha jacchusalis


Moved


Moved


Moved


Zanclognatha jacchusalis


Moved


Moved


Habitat?


Moved


Moved


Moved


Zanclognatha gypsalis-minoralis-theralis complex


Moved


Oh, these small Zanclognatha!


8349.1 – Zanclognatha dentata?


Moved


Moved to Chytolita morbidalis


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Why Zanclognatha marcidilinea?


Reniform


or 8347 – Zanclognatha obscuripennis?


Moved


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Sorry, take a look at the view of your post


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terminal line


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Thanks, A. Hendrickson!


Carl


Moved


Moved


Good pick


Thanks for the info.


A Zanclognatha


My not very helpful comment


Zanclognatha atrilineella


Treading on thin ice


Herminiinae


Moved


This looks more like Zanclogn


Moved


Something near Zanclognatha


Moved to Zanclognatha


Looks like...


Zanclognatha theralis


Looks like Zanclognatha theralis


Zanclognatha laevigata


Moved


There are


Some sort of


Zanclognatha


One of the...


Looks like...


Herminiinae


Maybe a Brown-lined Owlet Mot


looks like the lettered Zanclognatha


Looks like


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


One of those early in the Owlets book


Zanclognatha maybe


Could it be cruralis?


Moved to Zanclognatha cruralis


Moved


Moved


I totally agree


Moved


Zanclognatha laevigata?


How about


Zanclognatha theralis - Hodges #8341


Zanclognatha laevigata


Looks like


Think I messed up


Looks like Zanclognatha or Renia?


Zanclognatha


Moved


Moved


not Zanclognatha


These make us think of Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha


something in the genus Zanclo


Moved


Our first thought was Zanclognatha,


Zanclognatha protumnusalis


Zanclognatha pedipilalis - Hodges #8348


Zanclognatha jacchusalis?


Moved


The one above


Looks like ...


Zanclognatha


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


caterpillar


Wonder if these might be


Moved


Zanclognatha denatata


Moved


Moved


Moved


Zanclognatha sp.


Try looking through genus Zan


Moved


moth


Bob,


See Zanclognatha


Maybe Morbid Owlet?


8352 - Zanclognatha marcidilinea


Zanclognatha?


Very Worn Zanclognatha species


8347 - Zanclognatha obscuripennis


Maybe...


Moved


Another Insect (Daddy Longlegs ?) Is Under the Moth which is....


8340 - Zanclognatha lituralis


Looks Like 8341 - Zanclognatha theralis


8345 - Zanclognatha laevigata


Maybe...


Probably 8348 - Zanclognatha pedipilalis


8345 - Zanclognatha laevigata


Looks Like 8348 - Zanclognatha pedipilalis


Moved


Moved


Moved


Moved


Recent Taxonomic Changes


Changes in Taxonomy


Probably 8351 - Zanclognatha cruralis


Moved


Second guessing ourselves,


Moved


Any chance this might be Palthis


Yellowish Zanclognatha


Probably 8348 - Zanclognatha pedipilalis


8346 - Zanclognatha atrilineella


8353 - Zanclognatha ochreipennis


Probably 8352 - Zanclognatha jacchusalis


8349 - Zanclognatha protumnusalis


looks a lot like


8352 - Zanclognatha jacchusalis


Moved


Ooops! Another One of my Errors


Zanclognatha spp.


Looks Like 8351 - Zanclognatha cruralis


I am moving to Zanclognatha cruralis


Zanclognatha, possibly 8352 - Z. jacchusalis


Looks Like 8351 - Zanclognatha cruralis


Zanclognatha, tough one


Zanclognatha


Yes


Heterophelps refusaria


Moth ID?


My immediate


A place to start


Noctuid


Moved


Looks like


Moved


Moved


Z. bryanti


Moved


Moved


Moved


Zanclognatha


Ask Bob


thank you!


It's a


moth


Looks Like 8348 - Zanclognatha pedipilalis


I would call this


my guess


Ideas on function?


A couple of hints


Wavy-Lined Zanclognatha


Zanclognatha for sure


Noctuidae


Zanclognatha


Noctuid


I agree


Grayish Zanclognatha


Grayish Zanclognatha


Noctuid


mix-and-match Noctuid


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