Catocala amica - Catocala

Moved to genus

Moved from Girlfriend Underwing.

This is more likely the undescribed species according to Larry Gall.

… Steve Nanz, 2 August, 2018 - 4:07pm

Curious

Did Larry mention if it is essentially still part of an amica/lineella (and maybe jair) complex? (They're all so incredibly genetically close.) If so, we might as well change the amica-lineella page to something like 'amica complex' and note in the info section that the page encapsulates amica, lineella, jair, and the new undescribed species. Thoughts?

Also, I'm guessing Dale Schweitzer is the one working on this 'Catocala n. sp. Schweitzer species. I wonder if he'd consider the group best handled as a complex when ID'd by photo, barring any distinctive distribution info or the like.

… Jason D. Roberts, 2 August, 2018 - 4:40pm

He's finishing up a manuscript. Best to wait for publication. But I'll email you a little more info.

… Steve Nanz, 4 August, 2018 - 3:56am

Moved

Moved from Underwings.

… Hannah Nendick-Mason, 17 April, 2008 - 6:59am

Catocala amica (8878) Girlfriend Underwing

There is a nice photo in Dr. Covell's book, Plate 32, fig. 14. Catocala amica can be very common on the trunks of large oaks trees in Florida near the last week in May. I have tapped the trunks of oak trees and seen perhaps as many as twenty-five specimens of C. amica fly off or around the trunks. Catocala jair is just emerging from their pupae at this time. First week in June is the time to see C. jair in numbers in Central Florida.
"lineella" has not been scientifically proven to be a true species by DNA, genitalia comparsions, hydrocarbon work, or other accepted science studies. Looking at the coloration differents of the wings does not make a new species. A "Great Dane" and a "Beagle" look different and the coloration is different, but they are still both dogs (just different breeds of dogs).

… richard m. gillmore, 16 April, 2008 - 5:32pm

Catocala n. sp. Schweitzer

I don't know what Catocala n. sp. Schweitzer is but it's represented at BOLD in BIN BOLD:ACF0904 here.

… Steve Nanz, 27 July, 2018 - 5:11pm

Thank you, Richard

I'll move to the species level.

… Hannah Nendick-Mason, 17 April, 2008 - 6:59am

Actually there are a couple s

Actually there are a couple similar species in your area. I have trouble keeping them apart. May take an expert in the group to tell for sure. It could be amica, but keep in mind C. novo and C. jair. All of these are in the museum in Gainesville.

… Dennis Profant, 21 May, 2007 - 10:46am

Thanks, Dennis

I had no idea about those other two. All-Leps doesn't list C. novo but it has C. jair, and I found an image of a very similar specimen here - I guess I'd better leave this at the genus level for now.

… Hannah Nendick-Mason, 21 May, 2007 - 3:43pm

Catocala

To add to the confusion, another potential candidate is Catocala lineella. Maybe Rick Gillmore will help out on this one.

… Jason D. Roberts, 27 January, 2008 - 10:46am

C. novo is a species that was

C. novo is a species that was described after the publication of Hodges checklist, so it's harder to find in the literature.

… Dennis Profant, 21 May, 2007 - 6:55pm