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Western Honey Bee (Apis mellifera)
Photo#116739
Copyright © 2007
Ron Hemberger
Late blooming winter bee? No, just a honey bee from The Dark Side -
Apis mellifera
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Fullerton Arboretum, Fullerton, Orange County, California, USA
June 8, 2007
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Contributed by
Ron Hemberger
on 8 June, 2007 - 11:58pm
Last updated 13 November, 2010 - 9:52am
Moved
Moved from
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Ron Hemberger
, 9 June, 2007 - 7:25pm
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just a honey bee
Apis mellifera
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John S. Ascher
, 9 June, 2007 - 10:10am
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Thanks
John.
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Ron Hemberger
, 9 June, 2007 - 10:17am
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I vote to keep it
If it's different enough to be hard to recognize, it's probably a good illustration of the variability of the species. Someone with a similar specimen would benefit from seeing that there are such different honeybees.
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Chuck Entz
, 9 June, 2007 - 10:52am
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Please check this one, Chuck
Same, but better, I'd say. If you think otherwise, please advise and I'll de-frass.
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Ron Hemberger
, 9 June, 2007 - 1:13pm
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Better, yes...
but different. The abdomen (metasoma?) is solid black on the other one and a mixture of brown and black on this one. The difference in "fuzz" on the thorax is no doubt a matter of wear.
I suppose it's more of a philosophical question: do you show a few "model" specimens that look nice and display diagnostic features most clearly, or do you show ones that look like the ones a site visitor wants to identify? Is a good image of an unimpressive specimen really "bad"?
If it were my image, I'd keep it, but there are plenty of others who would disagree.
Besides, if I understand Jeff's question, it had more to do with the previous series: the one you have in your thumbnail has all the diagnostic features visible, so the other three aren't that useful. This one is a different view:
but the other two are minor variants of the first one.
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Chuck Entz
, 9 June, 2007 - 6:46pm
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Re: Jeff's Question
I'd originally posted four very similar shots here. After his comment - and pre-ID - I deleted two images, leaving the "main" one alone and consigning this linked image to Frass. After ID, I deleted the main image.
Although I had provided a thumbnail of my first post with the main image, my assumption is that Jeff's comment was confined to this one, but I did react a bit oddly to what he said, partly because he'd just posted 14 shots on a mantis. Anyway, water under the dam(n).
My personal rule is that, if someone asks me to keep an image, I do. Often, I'm my own worst editor. I appreciate your opinions and feel that we are pretty much in sync, particularly from a philosophic standpoint.
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Ron Hemberger
, 9 June, 2007 - 7:24pm
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In
case you hadn't noticed, my 14 images were 28 images of a mantis molting series and wing development series.
Not 28 images of a mantis in slightly different positions (well actually it was, but you know what I mean).
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Jeff Hollenbeck
, 9 June, 2007 - 11:20pm
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Hadn't noticed
It just felt funny in the context of my post. I did mention it was a knee-jerk reaction. You do some really nice stuff, and I was being repetitive.
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Ron Hemberger
, 10 June, 2007 - 10:30am
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Yes
I just didn't want you thinking I was calling the kettle black!
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Jeff Hollenbeck
, 10 June, 2007 - 11:08am
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Not
trying to give you a hard time, but why post the other three images?
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Jeff Hollenbeck
, 9 June, 2007 - 12:09am
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Point
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Ron Hemberger
, 9 June, 2007 - 12:30am
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