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Photo#124671
Caterpillar found on black haw (Viburnum prunifolium)

Caterpillar found on black haw (Viburnum prunifolium)
Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, New York, USA
June 22, 2007
Size: 1-1.5cm
This caterpillar pupated shortly after capture. Its pupa was red at first (shown alongside shed skin) and then turned black (shown by itself).

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Caterpillar found on black haw (Viburnum prunifolium) Caterpillar found on black haw (Viburnum prunifolium) and tachinid pupa Tachinid pupa from caterpillar found on black haw (Viburnum prunifolium)

Moved
Moved from Tachinidae.

Moved
Moved from Flies.

Moved
Moved from Frass.

Frassed
Moved from ID Request.

 
Should this image
stay with the fly pupa (and hopefully fly adult!) images?

 
fly adult
The adult fly did emerge, and several days later ended its earthly existence. If I can get a good picture of the dead fly I'll post it, then please let me know if you think it'll be useful to keep all the images posted and to keep them together.
Best,
Jonathan

 
Great, we look forward
to the climax of this story!

This doesn't seem to be the way
pupation should occur. The caterpillar forms its pupa under its larval skin, then shucks off the larval skin. The old skin would look like an old frock lying on the floor, just tissue. Here we still see the caterpillar. We would guess that means something like a tachinid fly larva emerged from the caterpillar and it is the fly pupa that you are looking at. The caterpillar is dead and you are looking at what didn't get eaten by the fly larva.

Hopefully, someone who knows Tachinids will chime in and give you the corect details rather than our sketchy description above.

 
I was afraid that I was actua
I was afraid that I was actually looking at a parasitoid pupa - due not only to the fleshiness of the "skin" left behind, but also to the small pupal size, and the fact that the live lep showed parasitoid wounds (visible in the phot). However, I was steadfastly in denial as I really wanted the lep to pupate so I could ID it from the adult.

Any ideas on the ID of the caterpillar - from the photo of it before it was just a shell of its former self? Also, I don't know how host specific tachinids are, but I wonder if when the adult emerges, identifying it will shed light on the caterpillar's identity.

Thanks very much

 
actias luna maybe
how big was the caterpillar? it kind of looks like actias luna

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