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Blue-fronted Dancer (Argia apicalis)
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Copyright © 2016
Kala King
Is this a female blue-fronted damselfly? -
Argia apicalis
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Dallas, Dallas County, Texas, USA
May 30, 2016
On the walking path above the White Rock Lake spillway, late morning.
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Contributed by
Kala King
on 11 December, 2016 - 9:55pm
We based our opinion
on the dark marks on the side of A8&9 and the very thin dorsal stripe on the abdomen. Our understanding is that moesta would have lighter sides to A8&9 and a broader dorsal stripe. But we would trust your opinion if you feel our ID is wrong.
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john and jane balaban
, 12 December, 2016 - 3:32pm
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Hi Guys! In the past 15 years
Hi Guys! In the past 15 years I've examined many photos from myself and others that we thought were one species or the other (regarding females of these two species), but then specimen examination in the lab (often of the same individuals that were photographed), personally with John Abbott has revealed we were wrong. I don't trust the dark mark stuff on the end segments and found it very subjective and ambiguous in my experience. If you have time take a look at this iNat record:
http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/3134121
in which I asked Dr. Abbott to look at since he happened to be staying at my house on a visit when I was commenting on it on iNat. I think the bug in that record is a dead ringer to this one. I am not saying this is not apicalis, just that I don't think you can say it is based on the photo. After collecting many hundreds of female apicalis and moesta over a decade or more, I think that this is a more complex issue than many folks realize when you are talking photos only. In the big picture, this issue is not important, but I just personally feel many of these tricky IDs of female Argias of these two species are more complex than we would like. Just my opinion and this record can stand as far as I'm concerned. So, just my take on it all for what it is worth. I have been spending more time on iNat lately rather than acting an an editor with odonates on BG and for that I apologize.
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Greg W. Lasley
, 12 December, 2016 - 6:00pm
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Nick Block thinks this is api
Nick Block also thinks this is apicalis, so I'll just get off my soap box and leave these alone.
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Greg W. Lasley
, 12 December, 2016 - 6:30pm
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If this helps
Two weeks prior to this photo, in the same place, I took this photo: http://bugguide.net/node/view/1310920
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Kala King
, 12 December, 2016 - 3:50pm
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Moved
Moved from
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. Yes, good call
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john and jane balaban
, 11 December, 2016 - 10:09pm
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How are you eliminating a blu
How are you eliminating a blue form female Powdered Dancer? Blue-fronted and Powdered females are very difficult to tell apart ion photos.
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Greg W. Lasley
, 12 December, 2016 - 3:21pm
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