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Copyright © 2017 Danièle Ulrich
Hemerobius ?
Chateauguay, Quebec, Canada
September 4, 2016
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Contributed by
Danièle Ulrich
on 21 May, 2017 - 6:59pm
Last updated 27 February, 2023 - 5:54pm
Moved
Moved from
Brown Lacewings
.
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Jonathan Hoskins
, 27 February, 2023 - 5:54pm
Moved
Moved from
Megalomus fidelis
.
Wing venation definitely doesn't agree with that genus at all (much less dense, shorter costals), and this lacks the pigmentation of the species. There also appears to be at least a partial pale streak down the thorax, which is much more typical of the Hemerobiinae. The two included genera are also the most common brown lacewings in Quebec.
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Jonathan Hoskins
, 27 May, 2022 - 7:58am
From what I can see, there ar
From what I can see, there are only two genus in the Hemerobiinae : Hemerobius and Wesmaelius. Since it is not the only North American species of Wesmaelius nor of Hemerobius would it be better to classify it in the family Hemerobiidae. Thanks.
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Alain Hogue
, 28 February, 2023 - 8:32am
?
I'm not sure why you would suggest that. There are 5 species of
Wesmaelius
and 9 species of
Hemerobius
just reported from Quebec, with many more across the US + Canada. The only genus only represented by a single species in our covered area is
Psectra
. Wing venation also excludes the other subfamilies and as far as I can see is most likely in alignment with
Hemerobius
. There's no need to move these back to family.
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Jonathan Hoskins
, 28 February, 2023 - 6:05pm
Something escapes me. On BugG
Something escapes me. On BugGuide, when I click on the genus Wesmalius the following message appears: "There are no guide pages below this one".
https://bugguide.net/node/view/71437/tree
On iNat, I find only one species in the genus Wesmalius for North America. This is W. longifrons.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?nelat=49.38&nelng=-66.94&place_id=any&swlat=25.82&swlng=-124.39&taxon_id=252925&view=species " class="bb_url">On iNat, I find only one species in the genus Wesmalius for North America. This is W. longifrons.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?nelat=49.38&nelng=-66.94&place_id=any&swlat=25.82&swlng=-124.39&taxon_id=252925&view=species
In summary, I am unable to find any photos of the 5 species of Wesmalius you mention.
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Alain Hogue
, 1 March, 2023 - 9:02am
Species listings
Species (and associated ranges) are listed under the info tabs of the BugGuide pages for both genera. I would never recommend relying solely upon either the tree tab or iNaturalist listings as those only include local identifications. Many species simply don't have any identified photos online, often either due to difficulties keying specimens from photos.
Just for example, the number of Chrysopidae species on BugGuide with representative photos has doubled since about 2019 after I began working with our images, and that's still only about 57% of our fauna. Our Hemerobiidae are even worse with only about a third of our species represented.
Many of our species do have photos on BOLD (including
Hemerobius
and
Wesmaelius
), but they're not always very helpful angles.
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Jonathan Hoskins
, 1 March, 2023 - 2:27pm
Alright I understand now. Wha
Alright I understand now. What added to my confusion is that all the species of the genus Wesmaelius did not even appear in the Taxonomy tab of BugGuide
https://bugguide.net/node/view/71437/tree
I thought all North American species would be listed there even though there were no pictures on BugGuide. Thanks for your clarifications.
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Alain Hogue
, 2 March, 2023 - 3:01pm
Moved
Moved from
Brown Lacewings
.
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v belov
, 22 May, 2017 - 12:32am
This is a new species for us
This is a new species for us and an addition for the northeast on the BugGuide distribution map. Thanks !
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Alain Hogue
, 26 May, 2017 - 7:15pm