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Photo#142401
unknown bee - Apis mellifera - female

unknown bee - Apis mellifera - Female
Aromas, San Benito County, California, USA
September 1, 2007
Size: ~15mm
This guy didn't look like any of the other honey bees in our garden, wondering if he is something different. Live oak/chaparral habitat.

Images of this individual: tag all
unknown bee - Apis mellifera - female unknown bee - Apis mellifera

Nice image
On the other hand we don't need additional images of honeybees. Also we don't need monthly images of it as was discussed in a forum. So, feel free to frass it now that you know the answer.
Bugguide is in need of some serious housecleaning now.

 
To frass or not to frass
Gary, it's your call. You can move it to honey bees or take it out.

Beatriz, was anything actually decided in that forum? I'm unclear.

 
Housecleaning
The consensus has always been that monthly submissions for each state are not necessary. If I recall correctly (I may be wrong) somebody submitted a string of honeybee images for each month (California, perhaps?) and then withdrew them for that reason. So, probably this is not the first time for this one. I could submit honeybees for January in Philadelphia but I am not about to do it.
You could take a cue from the most valued members of Bugguide: The ones who have been here from the beginning, who have contributed numerous guide pages as well as images, who are perhaps biologists and very aware of the significance of data, who help with very valuable comments, who are excellent photographers and could submit dozens of photos of high quality instead of one or a few.
Visit their images pages. You won't see repetitive images; when they add another one to the one that they already submitted previously it is usually for a very good reason, e. g.: an interesting behavior, life stages, etc.
I could submit monthly images for several species of Toxomerus and Eristalis, but I will not do that unless the time comes in which there is a separate warehouse and a guide. Then we'll be able to deal with the clutter without overwhelming the guide.

 
Significance Of Data
I'm sorry that I keep coming back to this, but it just keeps bothering me. When people speak of the "significance of data," I don't know what they are meaning by that. Isn't it a fact that a picture such as this, and the information it provides, is actually data itself? If it's simply frassed, isn't that the same as erasing data from our knowledge banks? Simply saying that one was seen in California during September without photographic evidence doesn't seem "scientific" enough. And I thought that was the goal here at BugGuide.

And besides, what are all those columns of months for on the data tab if not for data?

 
Honeybees are domestic animals.
One of my comments in the "Data points forum addressed this. Here it is in part (by now it is buried on the third page of that discussion): ". . . There are bee keepers in every state of the Union; therefore there are honeybees year round in every state. An image of a worker bee doesn’t add one iota of information. However if you submit a picture of a drone, a queen, larva or pupa or mite-infected bee, those would be valuable additions. See Wikipedia
Another example, butterflies (Papilionoidea) constitute about one percent of the total number of species of bugs, however almost seven percent (about 6.7%) of the images in Bugguide are butterflies. Rather than saying that butterflies are over-represented I prefer to say that other taxa are very badly under-represented. . ."
Let us concentrate on the tens of thousands of species absent from the guide. That is infinitely more important!

 
Didn't know there were honey bees in Philadelphia in Jan.
I yanked four honey bee photos so there'd be room for more, when a different looking light bee was posted. I returned one of mine from Frass when asked to. So there's room for more, right? Oh, we don't have quotas yet, do we?

I'm sorry you feel my performance lacking. I thought I remembered you complimenting me for helping others, but must have been mistaken. I've asked experts what they want to see in photos and try to provide images - as many as needed - to help them make their IDs. I've gone back to reshoot when necessary. While I have contributed zero guide pages, I have supplied around 3,000 images, many of which resulted in the addition of new guide pages.

 
I said it before
I said it before and I am saying it again: Too much of this and not enough of that. Nothing personal.
Aside from that, I agree that this is a very nice image that shows the "blonde" color variation; so you found a nice solution to this. as a matter of fact, I also removed an old, poor image. I understand that there will be more housecleaning of these pages, soon.

Congrats, Gary. You've bagged The Bingo Bee.
When you move this one to its rightful place in the guide, you've completed the Data grid for California. One row across! Yes, honey bees are here every month, and you've proven it.

Check the chart:
http://bugguide.net/node/view/3080/data

Hey, some states haven't posted a single one.

 
Blonde Apis mellifera
I for one am glad this photo was left in, redundant as some seem to consider it. It confirmed my observation of a blonde honeybee, which I unlike others perhaps, had not seen before. Given the numbers of bees and bee-like species, I think it is worthwhile to include this photo if only to prevent amateurs such as myself from continuing to annoy with further ID requests/postings for blonde honeybees!

btw is there any data on how often this variation occurs? why it does?

 
You mean you waded through all those honeybee photos?
Bless you, Joyce. Glad you found what you needed and weighted in on it here.

Was thinking about you Tuesday as I pulled into the Tustin Sr. Center parking lot - sans camera - and saw a really choice Giant Swall*owtail. (Still haven't got a good shot of one!)

 
The wading was easy
Hey Ron. The light colored bees stand out so dramatically from the others, it was easy to pick out what I was looking for.

 
Beautiful image!!!
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