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Clemensia albata - Clemensia ochreata

Clemensia albata - Clemensia ochreata
Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida, USA
September 4, 2017
Size: about 8 mm FWL
Porch light visitor.

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Clemensia patella of authors
Pretty sure this is out of range for Clemensia albata. See Lafontaine & Schmidt (2010), p. 114 (1). I'm waiting to hear back on the range for albata.

 
Clemensia albata
Steve - Please update this page with your findings on C. albata range. There are of course many BG and MPG records for north FL and further south. Whatever this moth turns out to be, it is certainly not uncommon in our area.

 
patella of authors added
I added a page for Clemensia patella of authors, not (Druce, 1885) here. The taxonomy of that species, true patella, and albata were confused prior to Lafontaine & Schmidt (2010). C. patella of authors had erroneously been applied to the western taxon but should have been applied to the FL taxon. The correction in Lafontaine & Schmidt (2010) had been overlooked by MPG and elsewhere. I will fix that and update the pages for albata at both MPG and BugGuide once I get the ranges sorted out. I believe that albata is widespread, CA, OR, WA, all of southern Canada and most of eastern US south to NC. Patella of authors is confined to NC to FL. BOLD shows three BIN groups two of which are widespread and narrowly separated and may refer to albata and the third being confined to NC and FL.

 
patella of authors added
Clearly, the distribution and the taxonomy of these species is very unsettled. It is very interesting and informative to learn some of the taxonomic history that has led to our current confusion. I have no doubt that it will be worked out correctly, and I am grateful to you and others for accepting that challenge. I look forward to further developments. Thanks, BC

 
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OK. It looks like I probably have this right but it turns out that authors are in the process of revising the group. So we'll hold of for now.

 
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No problem. Thanks for the update.

 
Clemensia albata
Thank you kyhl.

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