Green Scarabaeidae

Moved tentatively

Moved from Scarab Beetles.

… Blaine Mathison, 29 July, 2020 - 9:16am

Any updates from iNat?

It looks quite a bit like Cetonia aurata, but hopefully you got extra ID help on iNat.

… Tyler Hedlund, 15 November, 2017 - 8:20am

The original discussion happened there...

We thought it looked a lot like Cetonia aurata.

… James Bailey, 16 November, 2017 - 3:09pm

it does look non-native

anything nearby it might have been introduced with/on? If this is an 'Accidental Adventive' it should be moved there in the Guide, and not placed taxonomically.

There are a couple Palearctic cetoniines that have been introduced but I don't have literature immediately available to check.

… Blaine Mathison, 15 October, 2017 - 2:42pm

In a very urban area, presumably from viewer's back yard

Anything possible.

I thought about moving it to Adventitives. We have some pages in guide though that feature a single record.

… James Bailey, 15 October, 2017 - 2:44pm

single records are ok when it's known the animal is established

...and is breeding in N.A.

Accidental Adventives are for introductions that are not established.

… Blaine Mathison, 15 October, 2017 - 5:27pm

Most cases

are single vagrants to the US (such as those that came over from Mexico). I guess the difference here is whether it came on its own, or was introduced by us.

… James Bailey, 16 October, 2017 - 11:33am

single records vs. single vagrants

By single records, above, I assume you mean images of one specimen collected in the US, or generally single-specimen records?

True vagrant introductions are usually single (or small clusters). Mexican cases are harder, because they could just represent the northernmost extent of the population, creeping into our area. For those, I believe guide pages are warranted.

Otherwise, on BugGuide we do not create species pages unless it has an established breeding population in our geographic scope. Vagrants are placed in Accidental Adventives.

… Blaine Mathison, 16 October, 2017 - 4:33pm

I mean on a national scale

"Single record" is just one US record ever, I don't mean depicted on bugguide (where there might just be one specimen uploaded, but the species has multiple country records).

Looks like it is a case-by-case basis determination...this one seems fair in adventives, either way.

… James Bailey, 17 October, 2017 - 12:54am

first we gotta ID the bugger...

it does have a very 'Palearctic Cetoniini' feel to it...

… Blaine Mathison, 17 October, 2017 - 11:12am