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Hogna timuqua? - Hogna timuqua - female

Hogna timuqua? - Hogna timuqua - Female
Rocky Point, Pender County, North Carolina, USA
January 7, 2018
Size: 12 mm
I collected it in mid-October 2017 from a grassy area in the yard. It does burrow. Looks very similar to Hogna lenta to me, of which seem to be the predominant species of Lycosid in my yard, but the coxae are not black. The only description I could find is Wallace (1942), and it doesn't mention what color the coxae are.

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Hogna timuqua? - Hogna timuqua - female Hogna timuqua? - Hogna timuqua - female

Moved
Moved from possible timuqua.

Moved
Moved from Hogna.
I just saw this one on iNaturalist with the links to the examples on BOLD and wanted to make a more dedicated spot in the Guide for it. There's probably others that could be filed here.

100% antelucana
the coxae arent always black, sometimes reddish in younger specimens.

 
Younger
By younger do you mean juveniles? Because this one & others I've caught just like it are adults.

ETA: Turns out they weren't adults, they just took a really long time for their last molt (due to winter?).

Possibly ...
Hogna antelucana:

 
The ventral markings
don't seem to match H. antelucana, but I agree that the dorsal markings and leg markings definitely seem to match. Judging by the amount of info I can find on the two species, I suppose it's more likely to be H. antelucana though. Any idea about variation in the ventral markings?

 
It might be ...
immature or recently molted ... I think both of things could account for lighter than expected areas, just natural variation too. Here's a few T. helluo to illustrate how much that can vary.


 
Thanks...
I've actually been keeping it, and it hasn't molted since I caught it in October. But given its size I thought it might be immature. If it does molt and the color changes at all I'll upload some more pictures.

 
Sounds good ...
it's always neat to see how they change when they molt. I do still need to learn what H. timuqua looks like.

 
Another update...
This spider did end up molting, right before spring, into an adult male. Ants unfortunately got into my collection and this spider was sadly eaten before I could get a picture of it. It didn't look like H. antelucana though. It was much lighter in color, with an overall orangish color. The color/pattern sort of reminded me of an adult male Tigrosa grandis. He was not very large, about the same size as an adult male Tigrosa annexa.

 
I don't know why ...
I didn't mention H. lenta when I saw this initially even though that was my first impression. Maybe it was the longer appearance of the cardiac mark and the the narrower/less elaborate carapace stripe. Being male and immature might account for that though. I may not be able to rule out H. lenta. I found it odd that BOLD has a lot of timuqua and only one lenta which looks indistinguishable to me. BOLD has some misfiles on it though... so sometimes I take their IDs with a grain of salt, preserved specimens tend to look different too. Ones that look like this are the ones I expect are the real H. lenta:

 
Doesn't look the same.
I have collected a TON of H. lenta. All of the other ones I've found look like that picture. They are also bigger than this spider was. Could be just variation, I suppose, but they've all been collected in the same area that is less than one acre.

This has renewed my interest in correctly identifying this particular spider, though, so I'll try to collect a bunch this weekend and attempt to get some macro photos of the genitalia so we can see if that narrows it down at all.

 
That sounds great,
I still have the paper for it open ... It looks like H. lenta's epigynum is a lot plumper and reverse for the male genitalia, looks like H. timuqua's median apophysis is more compact and plump looking so a clear image might do the trick.

 
A bit of an update...
This particular spider has yet to molt, but I have captured many others in the same area, ranging in body length from 10-15 mm, and all have the same ventral markings. They've all been juveniles or females though; I haven't captured any mature males so far.

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