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The Brother - Hodges#9193 (Raphia frater)
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Raphia frater elbea
Photo#170465
Copyright © 2008
Robert L. Pearson
Moth # 07-266 -
Raphia frater
Skull Valley, (WSW of Prescott 10 miles), Yavapai County, Arizona, USA
August 20, 2007
Attracted to light on side of house @ night.
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Contributed by
Robert L. Pearson
on 21 February, 2008 - 6:20pm
Last updated 22 October, 2018 - 8:01pm
Moved
Moved from
The Brother
.
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Kyhl Austin
, 22 October, 2018 - 8:01pm
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Moved
Moved from
Raphia pallula
. There is now only one recognized species of
Raphia
in North America. All other previous species (
piazzi
,
coloradensis
,
abrupta
, and
elbea
) are now considered "parapatric subspecies at best". See
here
.
…
Kyhl Austin
, 23 October, 2015 - 8:31pm
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Moved
Moved from
Raphia
.
added note:
I notice that the others from Skull Valley look more like
R. elbea
, and it seems likely that this is part of the same population. So, I could have goofed in placing this under
R. pallula
. I thought the difference was clear, but now I'm doubting if the two names even represent distinct species.
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David J. Ferguson
, 29 November, 2013 - 9:53pm
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R. pallula, or elbea
The splitter vs lumper quandary when there are large numbers involved and anatomical variables aren't easily discerned. Thanks David.
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Robert L. Pearson
, 30 November, 2013 - 9:16am
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Moths
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Jason D. Roberts
, 1 April, 2008 - 9:12pm
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Raphia
Probably
Raphia pallula
, # 9197
© Bruce Walsh
or
Raphia elbea
, # 9196
© Jim Vargo @ MPG
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Jason D. Roberts
, 1 April, 2008 - 9:07pm
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Thanks J. D. Roberts
I have a hard time transposing these.....when they are this similar....forget it.....that why I depend on you experts with more experience & training & practice.
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Robert L. Pearson
, 1 April, 2008 - 11:19pm
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