Clover Looper? - Mocis - BugGuide.Net

Moved

… George Smiley, 9 September, 2019 - 4:15pm

Moved

Moved from Butterflies and Moths.

I'll leave it here for now...

… Yurika Alexander, 5 September, 2019 - 9:06am

Looks Like Mocis Moth

I see what looks to be the telltale intersegmental black splotches between A1 - A2 & A2 - A3. Caenurgina species and other related genera lack that.

… George Smiley, 4 September, 2019 - 9:49pm

I see...

Do you think this my old one is also Mocis?

… Yurika Alexander, 4 September, 2019 - 10:53pm

On Second Thought

Looking over some of my old images your older caterpillar could indeed be a Caenurgina species.

Caenurgina and Ptichodis larvae can indeed also have intersegmental black splotches between A1 - A2 & A2 - A3. They are larger, framed/interrupted by white (as is the case with your larger caterpillar), and perhaps a bit more noticeable when at rest for Mocis species.

About as confusing as true loopers.

… George Smiley, 5 September, 2019 - 2:13am

Yes I Do

The black patches are much more visible on this one. As for what exact species you have to rear them to adults to know that for sure. I will say that the caterpillars here that end up over 60mm have been Mocis texana. That is just an observation though.

… George Smiley, 4 September, 2019 - 11:30pm