Wasp? - Pristepyris ater

Moved

… Masumi Palhof, 10 April, 2023 - 12:48am

Moved

… Arturo Santos, 31 July, 2020 - 6:16pm

Moved

Moved from Ants, Bees, Wasps and Sawflies.

Of course! Thanks to all for the help.

I never even thought of Bethylidae. I think the critter just looked too big in this shot.

… Ken Wolgemuth, 10 February, 2020 - 10:49pm

I thought the same!

The perspective is misleading, and the narrow waist is hidden. Tricky little beast.

… Spencer K. Monckton, 11 February, 2020 - 10:03am

Pristocerinae!

Thanks to Matt Bertone for the suggestion just as I was looking at them myself. Pristocera looks quite close.

… Spencer K. Monckton, 10 February, 2020 - 10:18pm

a male

just logged in to suggest that but you beat me to it

… Steve Scholnick, 10 February, 2020 - 10:33pm

Moved

Moved from Common Sawflies.

… Ken Wolgemuth, 10 February, 2020 - 9:56pm

Not a sawfly?

This creature is... odd. Too many antennal segments to be a sawfly, plus what appears to be only a single protibial spur (Unicalcarida). The pronotum is also suspiciously long. Nothing springs to mind other than Trigonalidae, which can sometimes look sawfly-y. However, none of the recorded North American trigonalids have so few antennal segments!

… Spencer K. Monckton, 10 February, 2020 - 9:49pm

Woops

I also just realized I still had Alaska as my default. Updated with the correct state of Florida if that helps guide you better

… Masumi Palhof, 10 February, 2020 - 9:57pm

I actually wondered about that.

I looked at Trigonalidae and saw just what you said: way too many antennal segments. It didn't seem quite right for Tenthredinidae, but I couldn't find anywhere else to put it.

Oh, well, back to the drawing board. :)

… Ken Wolgemuth, 10 February, 2020 - 9:56pm

Interesting!

Interesting! I never know if something I submit is going to be unusual or not. Glad I snapped some photos!

… Masumi Palhof, 10 February, 2020 - 9:55pm

Have you posted this to iNat?

If not, you might consider doing so. Someone just might recognize it.

… Ken Wolgemuth, 10 February, 2020 - 10:09pm

Thanks

Thanks for all your hard work with the ID!

… Masumi Palhof, 11 February, 2020 - 8:49am

Moved

Moved from ID Request.

… Ken Wolgemuth, 9 February, 2020 - 8:40pm