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Wasp? - Pristepyris

Wasp? - Pristepyris
Dunnellon, Marion County, Florida, USA
January 23, 2020

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Moved from Pristocerinae.

Moved from Ants, Bees, Wasps and Sawflies.

Of course! Thanks to all for the help.

I never even thought of Bethylidae. I think the critter just looked too big in this shot.

I thought the same!
The perspective is misleading, and the narrow waist is hidden. Tricky little beast.

Thanks to Matt Bertone for the suggestion just as I was looking at them myself. Pristocera looks quite close.

a male
just logged in to suggest that but you beat me to it

Moved from Common Sawflies.

Not a sawfly?
This creature is... odd. Too many antennal segments to be a sawfly, plus what appears to be only a single protibial spur (Unicalcarida). The pronotum is also suspiciously long. Nothing springs to mind other than Trigonalidae, which can sometimes look sawfly-y. However, none of the recorded North American trigonalids have so few antennal segments!

I also just realized I still had Alaska as my default. Updated with the correct state of Florida if that helps guide you better

I actually wondered about that.
I looked at Trigonalidae and saw just what you said: way too many antennal segments. It didn't seem quite right for Tenthredinidae, but I couldn't find anywhere else to put it.

Oh, well, back to the drawing board. :)

Interesting! I never know if something I submit is going to be unusual or not. Glad I snapped some photos!

Have you posted this to iNat?
If not, you might consider doing so. Someone just might recognize it.

Thanks for all your hard work with the ID!

Moved from ID Request.

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