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St. Andrews leaf tier on Acer rubrum D2054A adult 2021 1 - Episimus tyrius - male

St. Andrews leaf tier on Acer rubrum D2054A adult 2021 1 - Episimus tyrius - Male
Durham, Durham County, North Carolina, USA
November 7, 2021
I have the adult and plan to send it to an expert for identification--I know the photos are not great, but I will likely have a positive ID on it eventually.

Moved
Moved from Tortricid Moths.

Moved

Looks like...
These are all ventral shots of the wings. Most species are impossible to ID from this side only.
Please image the dorsal side and add that in, thanks.

 
I will try--I do not have a r
I will try--I do not have a relaxing chamber, but I hope to send the specimen to an expert soon, and hopefully they will be able to photograph the dorsal side.

 
Nothing much to do here
Images should be deleted. This is an olethreutine, possibly an Olethreutes, but it’s impossible to say more from these photos.

 
This should not be deleted, a
Is there any value in this as a rearing record? As I said above in my comment, I have the specimen, and will soon send it to a colleague to be identified using dissection. The ID should end up being confirmed at some point. Perhaps we'll be able to get dorsal photos as well. I did not want to damage the specimen trying to do that without proper equipment.

 
There can be with dorsal shots
But these shots do not allow for an ID anyway. I would delete and resubmit once you have a dorsal view and/or an ID. I would at least delete the two extra images and leave this one photo as a placeholder for the eventual identification.

 
just spread it, Aaron you are
just spread it, Aaron you are probably right about genus level, I'll send pictures to Tracy once I dissect so he can post them.

 
Thank you for doing this! I
Thank you for doing this! I really appreciate the new photo and the ID.

 
Sounds good
This submission can be edited and this shot replaced with a spread photo. I hope I didn't come across as too snappy here.

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