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Tridepia nova - Hodges#10253 (Tridepia nova)
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Leslie Goethals
Noctuid -
Tridepia nova
Eastern Sierra, Inyo County, California, USA
March 26, 2022
~4150' elevation, Bishop.
Attracted to UV light.
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Contributed by
Leslie Goethals
on 14 April, 2022 - 8:27am
Last updated 3 June, 2022 - 4:11pm
Moved
Moved from
The Mutant
. After finding two of these last month in Arizona, I am going to backtrack and agree with you. Your moth is a bit darker than what I think is typical of
T. nova
, so that is probably why I was so compelled toward
Anarta
. However, the ST line 'W' mentioned in my earlier comment probably needs to be more prominent and reach the terminal line for this to be
Anarta mutata
. My apologies for doubting your critically sharp assessment that we have come to expect!
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Steve Morris
, 29 May, 2022 - 10:43am
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Thanks!
Wow, thanks for this Steve. One thing I have noticed is that for whatever reason, some of the Eastern Sierra moths are more saturated in color than those I see online. It could be that they are super-fresh or maybe there's something about the Eastern Sierra that provides that. In any case I'm having fun with all of this & am very appreciative of your help!
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Leslie Goethals
, 30 May, 2022 - 9:34am
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Moved
Moved from
ID Request
. The not so round orbicular spot separates this from
trifoli
. This is our first BugGuide CA record for
mutata
, but it is not uncommon there according to MPG sightings.
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Steve Morris
, 17 May, 2022 - 10:37am
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Tridepia nova?
Hi Steve
Thanks for this id and all my others! Can Tridepia nova be ruled out? Although the not-so-round orbicular spot fits, this moth doesn’t have the jagged terminal lines that Anarta mutata has. (I’m sorry, I’ve yet to learn the names of the features on the moths). I read that the two are similar & Jim Vargo’s image on MPG at least visually looks close to be a close match as well.
http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=10253
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Leslie Goethals
, 21 May, 2022 - 7:18am
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Keeping me on my toes!
Glad you brought
Tridepia
to my attention. I had not considered it. However, after review of that species on BG, MPG and Pacific Northwest Moths, I still believe this is
Anarta mutata
. First of all,
T. nova
is consistently paler tan in color compared to
mutata
. Also, as you say, the terminal line is more prominent and toothed in
mutata
, and has an obvious 'W' toward the outer margin which I can clearly see on your moth. Your moth may not have as much in the way of dark chevrons pointing up from the terminal line as seen in other examples of
mutata
, but the species does vary in that characteristic. Now that I know of the similarities of these two species, I will inlcude them in their 'See Also' sections on BugGuide.
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Steve Morris
, 21 May, 2022 - 8:16am
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Anarta trifolii
Perhaps Anarta trifolii or something close?
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John Morgan
, 14 April, 2022 - 2:44pm
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