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Tentative Hydrelia brunneifasciata - Hydrelia brunneifasciata

Tentative Hydrelia brunneifasciata - Hydrelia brunneifasciata
Renton, King County, Washington, USA
August 2, 2005
See initial discussion started on iNaturalist by MPG editor here:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/65553192

Moved
Moved from Hydrelia.

Moved
Moved from ID Request.

On the west coast, it should be albifera or brunneifasciata. I'm not sure how to separate them.

 
Hydrelia
Just curious, how were all the Hydrelia albifera IDs made. Should I assume somebody knows how to eliminate Hydrelia brunneifasciata from the genus?

 
Maybe all the ID'd observatio
Maybe all the ID'd observation are eastern examples, ruling out H. brunneifasciata.

 
Yes
This is an example where a widespread species had lots of images placed from the eastern range before anyone asked anything about the western IDs.
If you are collecting specimens, they could be sent to BOLD for DNA testing. Otherwise, we cannot be sure where to place them.

 
Thanks for solving the puzzle
Thanks for solving the puzzle. If only the country had been settled west to east!

 
ID
Who made the confirming ID?

 
Yes
Steve moved most of the western images, but he cannot update the info pages today, because BOLD is offline.
I'm still not sure that we can separate them by range (with some overlap?) or by visual characters, which might be slightly variable.

 
ID
Correct. I moved everything west of the Rockies except for the Balabans example from Oregon which I moved to genus because it looked a bit more like albifera. The ones I moved all seemed to be more consistent with brunneifasciata. BOLD is still down so I can't be sure about overlap in ranges and phenotypes. Paul Westell's #2083475 is from the type locality of brunneifasciata and it a very good match to the original description and illustration. See Info page for reference.

 
ID
Thanks for the info. Always fun to be early in with a species for the region/state/etc.

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