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EdSullivan
Rose Sawfly? -
Athalia cornubiae
Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon, USA
September 12, 2022
This looks to be Arge ochropus. Could I get a confirmation or an ID? Thanks!
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Contributed by
EdSullivan
on 12 September, 2022 - 7:01pm
Last updated 21 March, 2023 - 9:17am
Moved
Moved from
"Symphyta" - Sawflies, Horntails, and Wood Wasps
.
This seems to be a dead ringer for the species, though its known introduction is in a couple eastern states / provinces (ON & NY). Definitely double-check that the location is accurate.
From the first published report in the Americas: "Diagnosis.—In North America, the mostly bright orange color (Figs. 1, 2), annulated tarsomeres, and slightly clubbed antenna (Fig. 3) of the adult and the mostly blue-green larvae should make this species easy to notice in the field."
While there are other orange-bodied species and other species with a strong black margin to the wing that could possibly cause confusion (
Monostegia abdominalis
is mentioned in the paper, and there are
certain Nematinae
), all of the alternatives that I see lack the black rings on the tarsi and apex of the tibiae. They also differ in the structure of the antennae.
Spencer has noted another suspect individual
here
outside of the original published area.
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Jonathan Hoskins
, 21 March, 2023 - 9:17am
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Moved
Moved from
ID Request
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Your August submission looks even
more
like Tenthredinidae. I don't think these are Rose Sawflies--but I'll leave them here for now in the hope that a specialist will eventually have a look at them.
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Ken Wolgemuth
, 12 September, 2022 - 7:49pm
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This is an odd one
It does superficially resemble
A. ochropus
, but the antennae look more like those of a Tenthredinid. Also, BG has no records of
A.. ochropus
from anywhere near Oregon. Do you have any other shots?
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Ken Wolgemuth
, 12 September, 2022 - 7:17pm
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Sorry, no, I don't have any p
Sorry, no, I don't have any photos that are of this individual.
These are new at our house this year and the bright yellow is easy to track, but they rarely set down for more than a second or two.
I did have an ID request on 8/19/2022 but I can't confirm this is the same species...
I will work on clearer images and focus on the antennae first.
Thanks.
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EdSullivan
, 12 September, 2022 - 7:30pm
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