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Phoenicoprocta lydia - Hodges#8285.1 (Phoenicoprocta lydia)
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Copyright © 2008
Fran Bartle
Lydia Tiger Moth -
Phoenicoprocta lydia
Falcon State Park , Starr County, Texas, USA
October 3, 2008
I found this bug on the Rec Hall wall about 7:15 AM. It has now been ID'ed as Phoenicoprocta lydia, and is the 1st recorded US sighting.
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Contributed by
Fran Bartle
on 3 October, 2008 - 3:58pm
Last updated 10 July, 2012 - 4:19pm
Hodges Change
I'm changing the Hodges number from 8269.1 to 8285.1 at both MPG and BugGuide so that it follows 8285 Phoenicoprocta hampsonii in the 1983 Hodges Checklist and agrees with Greg Pohl's 2016 Checklist.
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Steve Nanz
, 27 April, 2018 - 2:07pm
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Well, this is a beauty!
Wish we could tell you what it was, but we'll just have to wait and watch and learn!
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john and jane balaban
, 3 October, 2008 - 5:36pm
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Lydia Tiger Moth
Thanks for your comments.
This is Phoenicoprocta lydia, and has been officially given the 1st US record. Local newspapers will run an article today; and the state parks dept. will run an article throughout Texas on Friday. Maybe it will go national and you can read the article.
Fran
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Fran Bartle
, 8 October, 2008 - 8:41am
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awesome
here's some info on I found which indicate observations of
" class="bb_url">P. lydia in what appears to be Central America, and southern Mexico
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and a reference to identifications:
Phoenicoprocta lydia (Druce, 1889)
Mexico. See Dycladia lydia Druce, 1889; Ann. Mag. Nat. Hist. (6) 4: 84, TL: Mexico, Tabasco
Phoenicoprocta lydia ; Hampson, 1898, Cat. Lep. Phalaenae Br. Mus. 1: 198
It looks like we'll be needing a new guide page!
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Nina
, 8 October, 2008 - 11:07am
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Arctiidae
Family Arctiidae, but this will be a tough one--I have photos of a bunch of Subfamily Ctenuchinae members from Mexico, and I've previously scoured
Matthew Barnes' pages
for photos trying
to ID mine.
My Mexico photos are the last 8 in the slide show. I see you're in Texas, so you may have similar moths in Texas to those that may be in the northern Caribbean and northern Mexico. Photos online are hard to find.
Yours seems to be possibly somewhere in Cosmosoma, although I'm only comfortable saying it's definitely one of the Arctids. Try Taking a look at the photo of C. festivum on plate 20 in the Moths of Belize collection that Matthew has put online-- it's the closest match I can find.
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Nina
, 3 October, 2008 - 6:14pm
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direct link
here's a direct link to
Cosmosoma festivum
on M. Barne's site.
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Nina
, 7 October, 2008 - 8:59pm
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Too much white on the wings
for that to be Fran's, but it's certainly close!
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john and jane balaban
, 7 October, 2008 - 10:08pm
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no cigar
close, but no cigar, yes? 8;)
I love the wasp moths, they are sooOOooo colorful--but finding resources to make an ID is tough. I suppose it would be slightly easier but just as time consuming if there was a huge museum collection nearby, or a place where I could look through those old books which cataloged many species of moths that are not so easy to locate in an online source. Part of me thinks that someday I'll collect some of the books for myself, but right now I need to put my money elsewhere. I did a search for Seitz's collection from the early 1900's last year and OMG--more than a thousand dollars. Oy! I haven't looked up Hampson yet but figure it to be equally costly and harder to find since it's from the late 1800's.
If anyone reads this has better research ideas, please share!
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Nina
, 8 October, 2008 - 6:22am
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