female jumper - Phanias albeolus

Moved

Moved from Bronze Jumper.

I sent an enlarged image of the epygium. Rod said, "Not Eris militaris, but Phanias albeolus! See what a difference an
epigynum makes?"

… Lynette Elliott, 7 December, 2008 - 9:56am

Wow

Scary!

Looking very carefully at this and the epigynum, which I would not have done if I hadn't noticed it sitting in Phanias, I do see enough to question an ID of E. militaris, but I never would have considered Phanias. Looks a bit like a Pelegrina, but with too much fur.

Thanks for your follow-through. You must have picked out the subtle differences in the abdomen pattern that I'm just now noticing.

… Jay Barnes, 28 February, 2009 - 6:56pm

Yes scary indeed,

I would never have considered Phanias, and had never even heard of it. Rod requested the enlarged shot, and afterward I was very surprised to find out it wasn't militaris!

… Lynette Elliott, 28 February, 2009 - 7:15pm

I wonder

if Rod could take a look at a couple others you submitted.

This one has similar markings as above; specifically, white spots I and II appear to be merged.

And I'm pretty sure this is a Pelegrina.

I don't mean to pick on you. Just that I haven't looked that closely at most of your WA Eris females until a few minutes ago. Without accounting for variability (or confirmation by genitalic examination), I would consider this to be a 'reference' for female militaris.

… Jay Barnes, 1 March, 2009 - 12:48am

You are right

it is probably this same species. I found them in the same place, same day. I don't think I have the epigynum for this one, though. Now the question is... what about the male I found with them? See this guy.

… Lynette Elliott, 1 March, 2009 - 2:11am