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Photo#241862
Syrphid Fly - Syrphus opinator - male

Syrphid Fly - Syrphus opinator - Male
Madera Canyon - Coronado NF, Pima County, Arizona, USA
October 12, 2008

Moved

Syrphus opinator ...... male
Syrphus opinator ...... male

Moved
Moved from Eupeodes.

Not sure
Not sure this is Eupeodes.

Eupeodes corollae
When I tried to determine if an insect visiting my common madia was a bee or not, I found it identified on Gardensafari.net as a male Eupeodes corollae. Would we have them in California or is my identification too superficial? Thanks, Mary Beth

 
E. corollae isn't in the U.S.
Details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eupeodes_corollae

I'm not an expert, but I know that a few syrphids are easy to ID to species (check out Toxomerus, with three U.S. species) and some are impossible to get past genus without dissection (Sphaerophoria). Eupeodes is one of the tough ones.

Feel free to post whatever you shoot, for an ID or confirmation of one you've handled yourself. Generally, it's best to stop at genus.

Moved
Moved from Syrphini.

An Aha! Moment
Finally, Gerard's patient lessons have sunk in, with major reinforcement from Ted. It's Eupeodes because abdomen has a margin, plus thorax is on the shiny side.

 
Who? me?
The margined abdomen characteristic that I sometimes point out comes from Paul's comment on one of the Syrphus images - http://bugguide.net/node/view/9880#5996. OK, I appreciate the honorable mention. :)

 
It's more than that.
After seeing you say that in comments to several posts, it finally sank in. So consider yourself a catalyst at the very least.

 
Thanks
Just one more observation. If the abdomen IS margined then it is NOT Syrphus. However, absence of margin does NOT automatically make it a Syrphus. Check out the Eupeodes species at Diptera UK.

 
Acknowledged
I think I'll stick to Eupeodes for a bit.

Moved
Moved from Syrphid Flies.

Tribe Syrphini
Either Syrphus or Euopodes. Perhaps Gerard or Richard can tell us.

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