Grammonota gentilis

Moved

Moved from Grammonota.

… John R. Maxwell, 14 November, 2009 - 12:50pm

I agree

it looks a lot like C. bennetti. I'm not sure either, though.

… Lynette Elliott, 28 January, 2009 - 10:19am

Family

Do you think that Amaurobiidae is correct? I'm not 100 % sure of that.

… John R. Maxwell, 28 January, 2009 - 10:44am

Not sure either,

I tried comparing eye arrangments, but your shots aren't very high resolution. If you compare the Amaurobiidae eyes with this spider's eyes, esp. the view below, your spider's eyes seem to be much higher up on the carapace. However, I don't know how varied the eye arrangements in this family can be. So, the body pattern fits fairly well, but they eyes are questionable (and hard to see).

… Lynette Elliott, 28 January, 2009 - 2:22pm

also,

look at those short little legs. Not a good match for most cobweb weavers and the eye arrangement is not a good match for orbweavers. It may be something we haven't considered.

… Lynette Elliott, 28 January, 2009 - 2:33pm

Images

I have a little more hope. These images make me think that we may be headed in the right direction. Now we just need an expert and a list of Neartic species.
Bathyphantes gracilis
Lepthyphantes minutus?
Grammonota gentilis - *** FAVORITE ***
Grammonota ornata

… John R. Maxwell, 28 January, 2009 - 5:02pm

Wow Grammonota

how did you find that? It does look very similar to your 'favorite'.

… Lynette Elliott, 28 January, 2009 - 7:05pm

Grammonota sp.

Mike Draney - University of Wisconsin-Green Bay
"I agree with you…this is a female Erigonine, and your guess is what I would guess: The abdominal pattern definitely makes me think Grammonota, and G. gentilis is as good a guess as any. I don’t think you can confirm the species, though, without examination of the epigynum under microscope (or excellent photos of the epigynum taken under a microscope…even that can be tricky)."

… John R. Maxwell, 29 January, 2009 - 10:32am

Excellent!

I say make the genus page. Nice find!

… Lynette Elliott, 29 January, 2009 - 3:42pm

Images

Started here
http://www.canadianarachnology.org/data/canada_spiders/ImageSearchFamily.asp
And just looked through the thumbs for Linyphiidae
http://www.canadianarachnology.org/data/canada_spiders/ImageFamilies.asp?Family=30

… John R. Maxwell, 28 January, 2009 - 10:18pm

"Outside the box"

Maybe near Bathyphantes?

… John R. Maxwell, 28 January, 2009 - 3:47pm