Moth #08-61 - Heterocampa amanda

Moved

… Steve Nanz, 6 April, 2022 - 11:14am

Moved to genus

Moved from Heterocampa averna.

Size?

Heterocampa amanda FWL: ♂ 17.0-18.5 mm; ♀ 19.0-20.0 mm.
Heterocampa averna FWL: ♂ 19.0-22.0 mm; ♀ 26.5-29.0 mm.

… Steve Nanz, 26 March, 2022 - 3:24pm

amanda?

This one looks like amanda to me with the reddish-brown hue that is absent in averna. Plus it is solidly in the range of amanda and outside the range of averna.

… Steve Morris, 6 April, 2022 - 11:12am

This seems pretty far north for averna

any chance it is amanda?

… john and jane balaban, 20 March, 2022 - 7:59pm

Maybe

You could be right. There are records of averna in Yavapai and Gila counties, apparently never beyond the mountain region. Where Robert photo'd this one, being a good bit WSW of Prescott, it would still be within the range *if* other records for Yavapai county are reliable.

I will say though, this specimen does have the paler scaling in the median costal area, so it may in fact be amanda. I don't do much with SW moths, so anyone more experienced with moths of that area could definitely help point us in the right direction.

For what it's worth, the only photo of amanda currently for BugGuide (Photo#759865), to me, looks misidentified. So if this one of Robert's does turn out to be amanda, it should be our first true amanda for the guide. :-)

… Jason D. Roberts, 20 March, 2022 - 11:57pm

Moved

Moved from Heterocampa.

… Jason D. Roberts, 21 August, 2011 - 10:55pm

Heterocampa

It's either Heterocampa lunata, or another Heterocampa averna. Sometimes they can look fairly similar.

… Jason D. Roberts, 11 February, 2009 - 7:36pm

Heterocampa lunata, or another Heterocampa averna

Thanks JD.

… Robert L. Pearson, 21 August, 2011 - 11:41pm