Identification, Images, & Information
For Insects, Spiders & Their Kin
For the United States & Canada
Clickable Guide
Moths Butterflies Flies Caterpillars Flies Dragonflies Flies Mantids Cockroaches Bees and Wasps Walkingsticks Earwigs Ants Termites Hoppers and Kin Hoppers and Kin Beetles True Bugs Fleas Grasshoppers and Kin Ticks Spiders Scorpions Centipedes Millipedes

Calendar
Upcoming Events

Photos of insects and people from the Spring 2021 gathering in Louisiana, April 28-May 2

National Moth Week 2020 photos of insects and people.

Photos of insects and people from the 2019 BugGuide Gathering in Louisiana, July 25-27

Discussion, insects and people from the 2018 gathering in Virginia, July 27-29

Photos of insects and people from the 2015 gathering in Wisconsin, July 10-12

Photos of insects and people from the 2014 gathering in Virginia, June 4-7.

Photos of insects and people from the 2013 gathering in Arizona, July 25-28

Photos of insects and people from the 2012 gathering in Alabama


TaxonomyBrowseInfoImagesLinksBooksData
Photo#30930
Herbert - Dysmicohermes ingens

Herbert - Dysmicohermes ingens
Murphys, Calaveras County, California, USA
July 30, 2005
Size: 4-5" span, 3-4" length
I have additional pictures if they might be helpful at Flickr

Moved

Thanks
Thanks everybody!

Herbert the fish fly
An often-submitted member of the insect order Megaloptera, formerly Neuroptera.

 
Megaloptera needed?
I've wondered about this for a while. Does anybody want to split out the Megaloptera from the Neuroptera? I'll put a note in the taxonomy forum as well.

In terms of this California fishfly/dobsonfly, I believe Arnett (1) has a key to the genera based on wing venation, and somebody who understands that (not me) might be able to key this specimen to genus.

Patrick Coin
Durham, North Carolina

 
Not me too
I didn't even see your first comment till I had already posted mine, Patrick. I wasn't trying to dispute you. I was just too dull-witted to scroll down to the bottom of the page :-)

Dobsonfly family, perhaps Protochauliodes
It is in the Dobsonfly family, Corydalidae, of the net-winged insects, Neuroptera. It is likely either genus Protochauliodes or Neohermes, which are the two genera in that family mentioned by Powell and Hogue in California Insects (1). Male Neohermes have bead-like antennae (and females too, in the species we have in North Carolina). Protochauliodes is said to have thread-like antennae. In your Flikr photos, I can see that the antennae are slightly serrate (saw-like), perhaps. So I'm not sure. If I had to make a bet, I'd guess Protochauliodes, but I'm not familiar with western neuroptera at all.



Patrick Coin
Durham, North Carolina

Comment viewing options
Select your preferred way to display the comments and click 'Save settings' to activate your changes.