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Home » Guide » Arthropods (Arthropoda) » Hexapods (Hexapoda) » Insects (Insecta) » Ants, Bees, Wasps and Sawflies (Hymenoptera) » "Symphyta" - Sawflies, Horntails, and Wood Wasps » Common Sawflies (Tenthredinidae) » Tenthredininae » Tenthredinini » Tenthredo » arcuata group (Tenthredo arcuata group)
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Wasp? and spider - Tenthredo
Copyright © 2009 Phil Huntley-Franck

Wasp? and spider - Tenthredo
Elkton, Douglas County, Oregon, USA
June 11, 2009
Size: approx 14mm
I took a number of images where these two were doing the spider's dance, though it seemed more like the wasp(?) was simply ignoring the spider. Eventually, the spider just parked itself where you see it, and waited patiently for the wasp to leave - which the wasp eventually did.

The spider is a female Misumenops, but I have no idea what the wasp is, or even if it is a wasp. Help to ID would be appreciated.
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Contributed by Phil Huntley-Franck on 29 July, 2009 - 11:22pm
Last updated 3 August, 2009 - 8:38pm

Thank you for all your help, V and Dave.

:-P)
… Phil Huntley-Franck, 4 August, 2009 - 6:13pm login or register to post comments

Moved
Moved from Tenthredo.
… v belov, 3 August, 2009 - 8:38pm login or register to post comments

Tenthredo sp.
D.R. Smith det.
his comment: "There is a group of Tenthredo like this that are wasplike and have somewhat clubbed antennae. Most species are in western N. Amer."

Moved from Cimbicid Sawflies.
… v belov, 3 August, 2009 - 8:09am login or register to post comments

 
Tenthredo
This group of Tenthredo is called the "arcuata group". There are about 17 species in western North America and many are found visiting flowers. All are very similar in color.
… Dave Smith, 3 August, 2009 - 8:06pm login or register to post comments

weird-looking cimbicid?
see antennae
… v belov, 30 July, 2009 - 12:12am login or register to post comments

really fine beast
wasp or no wasp... hmm... in this case, a rather moot question: same order as wasps, but diff. suborder, and no sting -- plus the vernacular tradition calls them ~flies... you see what i mean?

Moved from Ants, Bees, Wasps and Sawflies.
… v belov, 29 July, 2009 - 11:48pm login or register to post comments

 
a Möbius experience
I sometimes wonder which is harder: photographing little creatures or identifying them. Fortunately, I don't have to know what something is in order to photograph it - the need to photograph feeds the need to know . . . a Möbius experience.

:-P)
… Phil Huntley-Franck, 1 August, 2009 - 5:59pm login or register to post comments

 
as a full-blown technophobia patient...
...i can't even start to imagine what a feat taking a picture must be :-]
… v belov, 1 August, 2009 - 6:10pm login or register to post comments

 
Point. Shoot. Pray . . . try and figure out what went wrong - - - now, where is that silly button on the camera that fixes this????

:-P)
… Phil Huntley-Franck, 2 August, 2009 - 2:52pm login or register to post comments

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