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Home » Guide » Arthropods (Arthropoda) » Hexapods (Hexapoda) » Insects (Insecta) » Ants, Bees, Wasps and Sawflies (Hymenoptera) » "Parasitica" - Parasitoid Wasps » Braconid and Ichneumonid Wasps (Ichneumonoidea) » Ichneumonid Wasps (Ichneumonidae) » Pimplinae » Theroniini » Theronia » Theronia hilaris
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Braconidae ? - Theronia hilaris
Copyright © 2005 Jo Ann Poe-McGavin

Braconidae ? - Theronia hilaris
Jim Thorpe, PA 18229, Carbon County, Pennsylvania, USA
September 27, 2005
Size: 1 inch approx.
Guessing the sex of this one. Female? This is only clear photo of it-I have other photos from different angles-but they aren't very good-good enough to see the colours and body shape. another very busy wasp. It was also kind enough to run about ON the camera.

Should add one of the other photos?

Thanks

Jo
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Contributed by Jo Ann Poe-McGavin on 28 September, 2005 - 10:59pm
Last updated 28 September, 2009 - 2:50pm

Moved
Moved from Ichneumon Wasps.
… Jo Ann Poe-McGavin, 28 September, 2009 - 2:50pm login or register to post comments

Theronia hilaris
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… Bob Carlson, 28 September, 2009 - 2:28pm login or register to post comments

 
Thank-you so much for the IDs
Thank-you so much for the IDs on my OLD photos! I can finally give them names!
… Jo Ann Poe-McGavin, 28 September, 2009 - 2:51pm login or register to post comments

No, Ichneumonidae
Because the wing is clearly visible, it shows a certain vein that is only present in ichneumonidae, not in Braconidae.
However, more information concerning species ID is almost impossible from a picture.
Greetings,
Gerard Pennards
… Gerard Pennards, 29 September, 2005 - 2:15am login or register to post comments

 
Whoah!
I'd have said Braconidae also. Can you somehow point out the vein you are talking about. Maybe submit a diagram comparing the two families with that character? Would really be helpful. Thanks.
… Eric R. Eaton, 30 September, 2005 - 11:56am login or register to post comments

 
Differences Ichneumonidae-Braconidae
Hello eric,
Well, it is a very difficult issue, because it is not always very clear! Maybe the best thing I can do is show you all a link to a site on the net were there is an explanation with picture of the difference in wing venation from the two.
The link is:
http://hymenoptera.tamu.edu/paroffit/?taxcpl=cpl&taxcpl_id=2
Those are the veins i am talking about, and in the picture we talk about one can see this vein B very well, although it is a bit difficult . Hope this is enough for now?
Greetings,
Gerard Pennards
… Gerard Pennards, 30 September, 2005 - 5:31pm login or register to post comments

 
Thank you- ^_^ I'm never
Thank you- ^_^

I'm never going to be able to know there for sure am I? Not until I ask anyway.

Thanks again

Jo
… Jo Ann Poe-McGavin, 29 September, 2005 - 5:45pm login or register to post comments

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