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Plataea ursaria? - Plataea personaria - male

Plataea ursaria? - Plataea personaria - Male
Marin County, California, USA
September 26, 2009
Size: 20 mm length
This moth was found sitting on the surface of some water. Since I assumed it was stuck, after I got a photo I reached down to get it out of the water, but it promptly flew away on its own.

Moved

Plataea ursaria?
Size and appearance seems to match Plataea ursaria.

 
yes - or ursaria
but not P. californiaria

Moved
Moved from Plataea.

looks like Plataea personaria to me
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Possibly also 6924 - Plataea californiaria
I wish there was some simple way to tell the two species apart. Gary McDonald has a P. ursaria at MPG that is supported by DNA. It would be wonderful if you joined the All-Leps Barcoding Project as he has done and get solid IDs based on DNA.

 
Thanks!
I took a look around the All Leps website... How would I join that and what would it entail?

 
All-Leps or BOLD (same thing)
See a thread on DNA Barcoding that Mark Dreiling has started in the Forum, and write to Mark for advice about making contact with the folks who run the project at the Univ. of Guelph in Ontario. Basically, once they accept you into the program and send you shipping cartons, pins, etc., you merely "field pin" a specimen (after you have already photographed it) and attach a label to it bearing your log or photo number. When you have accumulated a box of specimens you send them in. They will post DNA results to your data file on their website.

 
Sounds fascinating...
...But I'm not sure about how I feel about dispatching the moths that come to my lights. I'd feel somewhat guilty about removing individuals (particularly females filled with eggs) from the gene pool, especially if they are from rare or endangered species (are there enough data to determine which species are endangered?).

 
Endangered Species
There is just one moth listed as Endangered in California. It is a desert species, Euproserpinus euterpe, the Kern Primrose Sphinx Moth, which is found nowhere near you.

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