Arabesque Orbweaver - Neoscona arabesca

Moved

… Andrew Williams, 8 June, 2010 - 10:02pm

My guess...

...would be a female N. arabesca. They vary in color quite a bit, though. I saw that you had another arabesca in the guide...if you stare long enough, the two of them look quite similar. :) But of course you would need an epigyne photo. Also, there is a photo on this page that has similar coloring: http://www.canadianarachnology.org/data/spiders/16694

… Mandy Howe, 15 October, 2009 - 11:31pm

looks good

I'll bet you're right. I'd considered that species, but couldn't find any pics without the white spots/pattern. The one you found on canadianarachnology looks to fit pretty well.

… Andrew Williams, 16 October, 2009 - 9:12am

More than a list,

You have some of the images here too.

… john and jane balaban, 15 October, 2009 - 4:57pm

Moved

Moved from ID Request.

… Andrew Williams, 15 October, 2009 - 9:32am

The Kansas School Naturalist lists

arabesca, crucifera, domiciliorum, oaxacensis, pratensis, and utahana! See here. We think it's safe to cross out domiciliorum, oaxacensis and pratensis for this one. The rest will have to wait till we get a Neoscona expert, or until we get a chance to work with Lynette on Neoscona. Right now we're still mired down in the Araneae page and Lynette is focusing on Araneus in particular.

… john and jane balaban, 14 October, 2009 - 7:54pm

great list!

I might be able to figure out a few with this list. Thanks!

… Andrew Williams, 15 October, 2009 - 9:31am

In many cases, especially wit

In many cases, especially with these orb weaver species, I think we'll have to accept the idea that a nongenital species determination is simply not possible. Perhaps we can manage a good guess, after comparing a few specimens, but without a solid list of known specimens, even this may be difficult, in my opinion.

-K

… Kevin Pfeiffer, 15 October, 2009 - 1:05am

just posted to canadianarachnology.org

ID request forum.

… Andrew Williams, 15 October, 2009 - 7:32pm

Yes. ;-) What are the poss

Yes. ;-)

What are the possibilities for your area? Is there a species list for Kansas (she said was the name of her town)?

-K

… Kevin Pfeiffer, 14 October, 2009 - 2:49pm

don't know

I don't know of one. I'm close enough to Missouri, a list from there would work too. Thanks for having a look at her.

… Andrew Williams, 14 October, 2009 - 2:58pm